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    Default How not to do self defense with a gun

    Woman ordered an Uber, thought she was being kidnapped and shot the Uber driver in the head. Now she’s being charge with murder.



    https://www.foxnews.com/us/kentucky-...charged-murder

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    From my understanding, you only need reasonable belief that your life is in danger to use lethal force, your life doesn't actually have to be in danger. If she can demonstrate that she actually believed that she was being kidnapped through some reasonable circumstance, she might be ok. It doesn't go into the circumstances, so it's hard to say for sure.

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    Wild guess: They didn't share a language; she saw signs to Mexico and asked him about them; he didn't answer because of the language issue.

    Simplest fact pattern that would make sense; otherwise, she could say "stop here and let me out" or "turn around" and her paranoia wouldn't be fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Wild guess: They didn't share a language; she saw signs to Mexico and asked him about them; he didn't answer because of the language issue.
    By my definition, if I was in that situation, I might have assumed I was being kidnapped as well.

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    Human trafficking is a bitch.

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    Default Re: How not to do self defense with a gun

    thought uber didnt allow passengers to have guns

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    GUILTY!


    No way this mess was going to be trafficked...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman106 View Post
    GUILTY!


    No way this mess was going to be trafficked...


    *Sensible chuckle.*


    This doesn't look good for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman106 View Post
    GUILTY!


    No way this mess was going to be trafficked...


    You would be surprised what some women who have been trafficked look like.
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    Default Re: How not to do self defense with a gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Gman106 View Post
    GUILTY!


    No way this mess was going to be trafficked...


    Quote Originally Posted by Aggies Coach View Post
    You would be surprised what some women who have been trafficked look like.
    Maybe she makes a really good sammich...

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