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  1. #11
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    Please excuse my optimism, but has there been any word of any of the 101 democrats (maybe 1 ?!?) not being on board for this, with the understanding that they are basically banning ammo in the Commonwealth?

  2. #12
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    Would one be able to file a freedom of information act to local PD's asking for their list of serial numbers and which officer they are assigned to.
    Asking for a friend.
    I just flew the Millennium Falcon through the hole in your logic 2A6X1

  3. #13
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    If we dont vote...demoncrats will take the senate as well and all this and much more will pass.

  4. #14
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    Quote Originally Posted by xflyboy View Post
    Would one be able to file a freedom of information act to local PD's asking for their list of serial numbers and which officer they are assigned to.
    Asking for a friend.
    I'd bet, as usual, police agencies will be exempt.
    I would like to see the proposal amended. I'd like to see drop boxes mandated for the collection of contraband ammunition, no questions asked, like the drop boxes they have for unwanted prescription drugs.

    Only these drop boxes would be much smaller and worn on the faces of politicians and government officials who support such legislation.
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  5. #15
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    By Jan 1st 2024
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  6. #16
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    Never going to happen. It would be an impossible feat to try and get this done. Just think how much ammo is sold in PA in one year. Now, every ammo manufacturer is going to code and micro stamp every bullet they make just so it can be sold in PA?

  7. #17
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    These parts of the bill seem enough to clearly violate other parts of PA law, whether the PA constitution or other statutes:

    ***snippet from the bill***

    (c) Duty of owner to dispose of ammunition.--On or before
    January 1, 2024, an owner of ammunition for use in a regulated
    firearm that is not encoded by the manufacturer in accordance
    with subsection (a) shall dispose of the ammunition.
    (d) Duty of commissioner to maintain information.--One year
    after the effective date of this subsection, the commissioner
    shall establish and maintain an encoded ammunition database.

    ***end snippet***

    <<commence vomiting>>

  8. #18
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    Anybody know of any very popular/active discussion forums for the gun-control/anti-gunner types?

    I'd be really curious to go lurk and do some reading on some of them to see what they are thinking when bills like this come up.

  9. #19
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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    Never going to happen. It would be an impossible feat to try and get this done. Just think how much ammo is sold in PA in one year. Now, every ammo manufacturer is going to code and micro stamp every bullet they make just so it can be sold in PA?
    I think that's the point of this bill and a lot of other gun laws in the works. If they can't take away the guns, prohibit their usage in other ways. This would be akin to the gas bans going on in Cali. When banning gas appliances in new construction failed, they instead banned the gas piping from going into the buildings thereby rendering any gas appliances useless.

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    Default Re: HB 586 - This would require by Jan 1st 2024......

    *And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more * we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.*
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