CRS Firearms found guilty

**widgetman101** · April 21st, 2023, 02:32 PM

If you're not familiar with the case you can read more about it here - https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...ds-/5-2525742/

The short is he was a Youtuber that did marketing for a guy building a novelty Lighting Link. The ATF has now determined that a piece of metal with a drawing is a machine gun.

**Ilikebuckets** · April 21st, 2023, 02:47 PM

I have watch some of the videos about this case over the last few months. I get the defendants point of view and if I were on the jury I would have voted not guilty. I am sure he will appeal and hope for a reversal. But right now he is a felon facing jail time, never being able to legally hold or own a gun again and major fines after a costly court case.

It also shows the danger of being the guy to stand up for what you believe in. I*ve heard people say (not on PAFOA) that they are going to keep their braces on their pistols and hope for the best. This lightning link case demonstrates why that is not a good philosophy to go by. It can cost you your freedom, 2nd Amendment right and money.

**coat4gun** · April 21st, 2023, 02:59 PM

Its getting to the point that its not worth surrendering.

**bogey1** · April 21st, 2023, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by coat4gun

Its getting to the point that its not worth surrendering.

Bingo!

**pacomdiver** · April 21st, 2023, 06:09 PM

once again, the NON JUDICIAL "LAW" making "Fifedom" is making laws and enforcing them illegally. we gotta find a "consitutional lawyer" and start putting those Felons behind bars. Dogs live matter!

**USMC3531** · April 21st, 2023, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by pacomdiver

once again, the NON JUDICIAL "LAW" making "Fifedom" is making laws and enforcing them illegally. we gotta find a "consitutional lawyer" and start putting those Felons behind bars. Dogs live matter!

What are you talking about, no laws were rewritten. Auto sears and conversion devices are and have been illegal for decades. If it was printed on a piece of paper it would likely be legal printing it on metal was a stupid move and that crs guy is a douche. While I hope they reverse the decision de deserves the trouble for pushing the issue

**KPShooting** · April 21st, 2023, 03:08 PM

Fucking tyrants.

**General Geoff** · April 23rd, 2023, 11:42 PM

The big take-away in this case is that the public at large hears "machine gun" and their brain just defaults to "guilty." As evidenced by this case's jury. In the days leading up to the verdict, Matt posted several updates on Youtube about how his defense absolutely destroyed the prosecution and made fools out of the ATF. I'm sure they did, in his and our eyes. The problem is everyone in the jury made up their minds on the first day of trial. Machine gun = guilty.

NFA reform is a long, long way away as long as the public at large sees machine guns as the sole domain of criminals.

Of course I am certain that the prosecution made 100% sure there was not a single pro-2A gun enthusiast seated on that jury, to seal Matt's fate.