Surface area RE: Brace Ruling

[Sgt.K]

The brace ruling thread ( https://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=393903 ) has gotten large, and I feel this question could get lost there, so...

There is talk about 'surface area' determining if a buffer tube (or attachment) is a stock.

• Is there an objective measurement/method for this?
• Does a pistol buffer tube - cylindrical, larger diameter than mil-spec or commercial - fall under or over the above measurement?
• Does a cheek pad (a.k.a. foam condom) now constitute a stock because of surface area? What about a crutch tip used to keep the pistol from slipping in the rack?

Inquiring minds...

[JaySmith]

According to my ffl...

If it has a buffer tube, and needs a buffer tube, and has nothing else, it's ok. If it has a buffer tube, but does not need a buffet tube, it's not ok. If it has a buffer tube, needs a buffer tube, and has a fin/brace/stock, it's an sbr. A foam pad for your cheek is ok.

[Ilikebuckets]

As of today if the buffer tube is part of the operation of the pistol you are good. Who knows what they will alterp the deal to a year from now

[ExFlyinguy]

According to my ffl...

If it has a buffer tube, and needs a buffer tube, and has nothing else, it's ok. If it has a buffer tube, but does not need a buffet tube, it's not ok. If it has a buffer tube, needs a buffer tube, and has a fin/brace/stock, it's an sbr. A foam pad for your cheek is ok.

^ That's probably about the best most accurate & simplest way I've heard(read) it said.

I say BRAVO to your FFL!

[Mr_Gixxer]

What law are we referring to here?

[bogey1]

What law are we referring to here?

The one that I wont abide by.

[Royinmontco]

What law are we referring to here?

Yes.

[ray h]

According to my ffl...

If it has a buffer tube, and needs a buffer tube, and has nothing else, it's ok. If it has a buffer tube, but does not need a buffet tube, it's not ok. If it has a buffer tube, needs a buffer tube, and has a fin/brace/stock, it's an sbr. A foam pad for your cheek is ok.

This leaves out the answer about carbine style buffer tubes on an AR pistol? The tube itself is needed for operation, but the rib with adjustment holes for a brace or stock, on the bottom, is not.

[ExFlyinguy]

This leaves out the answer about carbine style buffer tubes on an AR pistol? The tube itself is needed for operation, but the rib with adjustment holes for a brace or stock, on the bottom, is not.

I recall pre-braces, that carbine tubes were "no-nos" simply because they could readily accept a stock. It's why "pistol tubes" came to the market.

[eyecanshoot]

This leaves out the answer about carbine style buffer tubes on an AR pistol? The tube itself is needed for operation, but the rib with adjustment holes for a brace or stock, on the bottom, is not.

I think they would need to switch over to a pistol tube. At least that is my interpretation.