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January 30th, 2023, 05:39 PM #701
Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
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January 30th, 2023, 06:10 PM #702
Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
try this: https://eforms-form1.atf.gov/home
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685
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January 30th, 2023, 10:48 PM #703
Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
I was bored and skimming this thing again. Anyone else find the last sentence of this section interesting?
PAGE 210
Furthermore, this rule also provides options for individuals who are in possession
of a firearm equipped with a *stabilizing brace* that is an unregistered short-barreled
rifle, as that statutory term is properly understood. The options for current unlicensed
possessors include the removal and replacement of the offending feature (the barrel less
than 16 inches); submission of an ATF E-Form 1 by [INSERT DATE 120 DAYS
AFTER DATE OF PUBLICATION IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER], to register the
firearm as a short-barreled rifle; removal of the *stabilizing brace* so that it cannot be
reattached to the firearm; turning the firearm into a local ATF office; or destroying the
firearm. For a detailed discussion of the options available for individuals to comply with
the statute, see section V.B of this preamble. In an exercise of the Department*s
enforcement discretion, it has determined that any criminal liability for failure to take the
necessary action to comply with Federal law for weapons that have already been made
will result only for conduct occurring after the time period to register ends. Additionally,
in lieu of criminal prosecution, the Department may, for conduct occurring after the 120-
day period, pursue forfeiture of the firearm pursuant to 26 U.S.C. 5872.
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January 30th, 2023, 11:15 PM #704Grand Member
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January 31st, 2023, 03:59 AM #705Senior Member
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January 31st, 2023, 07:01 AM #706
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not digging through the pages, got an email from the register, it was published.
scrolled through, they spend paragraph after paragraph explaining and attacking comments and constitutional arguments.
did a search and no one addressed miller, guess it is considered superceded.
they do state that it isnt a violation of rights because heller defined specific weapon types and a short barrel rifle has no purpose outside of war <not in those words> as such its not protected.
but it just goes on and on for pages addressing comments with "department response"There is no way to make it out alive...
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January 31st, 2023, 07:22 AM #707
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No new laws today.
No new constitutional amendments today.Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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January 31st, 2023, 08:30 AM #708Grand Member
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January 31st, 2023, 09:35 AM #709
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Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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January 31st, 2023, 10:41 AM #710Grand Member
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Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
https://youtube.com/shorts/3lj1LX3UYO4?feature=share
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