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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Here is a video of her talking about her changing views. It’s a long video. I would look at around the 6 minute mark to get a good taste of where she currently claims to stand on guns and the Democratic Party.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvkrlv...e=emb_imp_woyt

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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilikebuckets View Post
    Here is a video of her talking about her changing views. It*s a long video. I would look at around the 6 minute mark to get a good taste of where she currently claims to stand on guns and the Democratic Party.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvkrlv...e=emb_imp_woyt
    There's a bit of a problem for me. 'Currently stands.'

    Of course Biden was basically a segregationist, and now he 'currently stands' with the woke crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    There's a bit of a problem for me. 'Currently stands.'

    Of course Biden was basically a segregationist, and now he 'currently stands' with the woke crowd.
    That isn't a change, as the woke crowd are also segregationists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    There's a bit of a problem for me. 'Currently stands.'

    Of course Biden was basically a segregationist, and now he 'currently stands' with the woke crowd.
    I don*t like restaurants that are inconsistent. Good one day, not so good the next. You never know what you might get. Not going to waste my money and hope that today is the day I might get a good meal. It would take a lot of reports from others that they have become consistently good before I will give them a chance again.

    Same with politicians. I understand they can evolve over time but I need a history of consistency before I buy in and spend my energy and votes on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    That isn't a change, as the woke crowd are also segregationists.

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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Yinz think that this is something to just ultimately ignore?
    F*S=k

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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ScaredOnce View Post
    Yinz think that this is something to just ultimately ignore?
    You have over 3 months, nobody knows if they're even going to still be alive then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    That isn't a change, as the woke crowd are also segregationists.
    You are absolutely correct. They have just created a paradigm shift.

    And I just don't trust Tulsi Gabbard, feeling the same as Ilikebuckets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    You have over 3 months, nobody knows if they're even going to still be alive then.
    To quote me mate Liam, I'm gonna Live Forever...

    So, I've booked a canoe trip for 2.999 months from now... planning to do some action-canoe drills with all of my braced ARs/AKs... Might even buy some more before then while the deals are good!

    Don't worry.... It's a very old keelless wide-belly canoe I've used since I was 6 with my father. We named it "Titanic" for good luck.

    FtATF.
    F*S=k

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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ScaredOnce View Post
    Yinz think that this is something to just ultimately ignore?
    I*m not getting rid of my pistol or sending the atf my brace. I am certainly not registering it. I*m not okay with this ruling and am not going to give the AFT any indication that I support them. This is an arbitrary redefining of words at the request of Biden that will give Biden a major victory if it sticks and something he can use to placate antis who are in his base. *See, I told you I would increase gun regulations and i did. People either registered their guns with us or became the criminals that they really are!!!! Corn pop didn*t know what hit him* It is quite simply wrong, unamerican, unconstitutional and bullshit that the ATF now thinks it has the power to do this.

    It is an abuse of the separation of powers clause in the Constitution and an attack being fired straight at the 2nd Amendment and its supporters.

    At the same time the consequences of ignoring this are high. Becoming a felon, 10 years in prison, $250,000 in fines are not to be taken lightly. It*s easy to say “how will the AFT ever know” but there are ways that it could happen.

    Use your braced pistol to defend your family and they could know. Take it to the range and use it there not knowing that there is a power hungry cop or gov*t employee at the next lane” and they could know. It could be some asshole FUDD at the next lane who doesn’t think people should own scary black rifles and that it is their civic duty to turn you in because you are obviously not a “responsible gun owner”. If Have an ex wife/girlfriend who wants to get at you and knows what you have because you*ve said to much, they could know.

    You pass away 10 years from now and one of your kids get the gun, *thinks this is cool, I wonder why dad never let me shoot this one at the range* and takes it out without a care in the world, now they are in danger of becoming a felon without even knowing it. I*m not playing this game either.

    I will take the brace off and separate it from the gun and be done with it. If the correct ruling is made and eventually comes down that this is an overreach of ATF authority I will get the brace back and reinstall it.
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