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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by buckengr View Post
    In Caetano v. Massachusetts, SCOTUS says 200k stun guns were sufficient to put then squarely "in common use" and therefore explicitly not unusual, so they can't be dangerous AND unusual. Whatever the number, it is certainly >200k so they are unquestionably protected by the 2A.

    Remember, common use is a sufficient condition to qualify for 2A protection, but it is not a necessary one.

    Worth noting, there are somewhere in the ballpark of 200k transferable machine guns on the NFRTR too. Not that it should matter -- the founders said "arms". They didn't stutter.
    founders also said at times governments should be altered or abolished.
    we've tried the former, me thinks it is latter time.
    There is no way to make it out alive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pag23 View Post
    But we aren't part of it....f'ing Democrats
    if it wasn't for all the dead ones voting it would be much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    founders also said at times governments should be altered or abolished.
    we've tried the former, me thinks it is latter time.
    Yeah....and ask the one's who were involved in Jan 6th how well that worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemanshooter View Post
    Yeah....and ask the one's who were involved in Jan 6th how well that worked out.
    There are a few of us that learned from Jan 6. Maybe not the lessons they wanted us to learn, but lessons none the less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray h View Post
    There are a few of us that learned from Jan 6. Maybe not the lessons they wanted us to learn, but lessons none the less.
    I predict that there will not be another unarmed insurrection.
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
    Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I predict that there will not be another unarmed insurrection.
    Well, when you know going in that you're going to be locked up and the key thrown away just for showing up, it changes how serious you are when you decide to show up.
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    The lesson learned from Jan 6th was don't go to a giant rally unarmed and don't go there and let the tyrants get away. A complete and total missed opportunity.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    the three above me are correct
    There is no way to make it out alive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I predict that there will not be another unarmed insurrection.
    And what then? What's the plan after that? The short-sightedness of "we're gonna get 'em" attitude is, at best, childish. And then who controls the military? What prevents Russia or China from seizing an opportunity to attack because there is nobody in charge?

    I usually ignore the folly post of the tiny minority of the "we're gonna get 'em crowd" because I'm quite confident should something like this occur again, the punishments will be more severe than those who did such folly the first time around.

    So, buckle up buttercup.....this imaginary "better place" is just that.

    Or as a famous musician once wrote: "While the veteran dreams of the fight, fast asleep at the traffic light..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemanshooter View Post
    And what then? What's the plan after that? The short-sightedness of "we're gonna get 'em" attitude is, at best, childish. And then who controls the military? What prevents Russia or China from seizing an opportunity to attack because there is nobody in charge?

    I usually ignore the folly post of the tiny minority of the "we're gonna get 'em crowd" because I'm quite confident should something like this occur again, the punishments will be more severe than those who did such folly the first time around.

    So, buckle up buttercup.....this imaginary "better place" is just that.

    Or as a famous musician once wrote: "While the veteran dreams of the fight, fast asleep at the traffic light..."
    Fuel up your F15, get your diaper changed and don't forget to give 'em two blasts from the balcony.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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