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  1. #351
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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    Not that the entire issue isn't a fiasco, but since ATF has never requested a notarized Schedule A from me for any filing, so if there is no direction in the new 'regulation' that a notarized Schedule A is required, how can they demand it?
    I hear you, but I also recognize that they seem to make s**t up as for any legal document, I'd rather have it notarized than not whenever possible. It may be entirely unnecessary, but having it done avoids having to rely on my word that the document was signed on a given date.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshIronshaft View Post
    I'm surprised no one brought up the restrictions on crossing state lines with an SBR without an approved ATF Form 5320.20. If you cross state lines frequently with your firearm I am told you can fill out the form for a year's period and just say "frequent recreational shooting trips" or something at that destination. I've only used the form for individual trips to Ohio for shooting events. They're no big deal unless you procrastinate/forget.
    My 2 nearest borders are NJ and NY, so it's easy for me to remember to just leave everything home. I was stopped in the DWGNRA on the NJ side once for hiking in a closed area after hours and after seeing the PA plates, the Ranger asked if I had any weapons on me. I laughed and said "It's NJ. Abso-f**king-lutely not."

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    Default Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

    More of a summary video

    "If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target"

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    Default Re: ATF Just Dropped Their Brace Ruling

    Looking through AR pistols being sold now. What a difference a week makes. Almost no braces, mostly buffer tubes.

    https://www.wikiarms.com/group/ar15p...source=fpdeals

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    Default Re: ATF Just Dropped Their Brace Ruling

    Guns and Gadgets. The most trustworthy name in gun news LOL
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
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    What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!

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    "If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target"

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    Default Re: ATF Just Dropped Their Brace Ruling

    Palmetto State Armory*s release about the brace rule

    ATF Pistol Brace Rule

    Palmetto State Armory Statement

    On January 13, 2023, ATF announced its new final rule on stabilizing braces (Rule 2021R-08F, *Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached Stabilizing Braces,* found at https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...ilizing-braces), which appears to subject many of today*s firearms with attached stabilizing braces and the millions of individuals that own them to the provisions and requirements of the National Firearms Act (NFA).

    Palmetto State Armory opposes this rule that, in many respects, is a complete reversal of years of prior guidance from ATF and represents another example of government overreach and the arbitrary infringement of Americans* constitutional rights. We will work with our fellow manufacturers and industry partners to challenge this unjust rule, and we look forward to this unconstitutional action being struck down by the courts.

    Given the present uncertainty caused by this rule, however, and at the advice of our legal counsel, we are taking action to comply with the rule as we currently understand it and, upon publication of the rule in the Federal Register, will no longer sell or ship pistols with stabilizing braces. Rest assured, we will continue to do everything in our power to legally promote the rights of law-abiding gun owners and maximize individual freedom while this matter makes its way through the judicial system.

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    Default Re: ATF Just Dropped Their Brace Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    Guns and Gadgets. The most trustworthy name in gun news LOL
    How about you let folks make their own informed decisions. GNG is just relaying info from the GOA lawyer who spoke to the ATF.
    "If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    Guns and Gadgets. The most trustworthy name in gun news LOL
    thanks for your thoughtful contribution.

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