ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling

**Walleye Hunter** · January 18th, 2023, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer

Why are people registering already? The "amnesty" hasn't even started yet.

The flock has been well conditioned.

**akley88** · January 18th, 2023, 11:10 AM

curious to see what happens to the value of these guns in a few years. im going to guess that most braced guns registered are not going to be anything highly sought after. will now being a sbr hurt or help the value of these items?

**GunLawyer001** · January 18th, 2023, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by akley88

curious to see what happens to the value of these guns in a few years. im going to guess that most braced guns registered are not going to be anything highly sought after. will now being a sbr hurt or help the value of these items?

Unless SBR's are frozen like MG's, they won't have much bonus value over Title I rifles or pistols. Which would make no sense to do another '86 ban, but they never let that stop them before.

The only thing you save between a $200 Form 1 making of an SBR, and a $200 Form 4 transfer, is the cost and effort of markings. And a Form 4 keeps your personal info off a gun.

Registering a braced gun now makes sense if you personally want an SBR with a govt $200-off coupon. Otherwise, not so much. Braces are not so great shoulder stocks, and terrible as wrist braces, so unless you're handicapped & the brace helps, it's better to go SBR, probably.

**bob2277494** · January 18th, 2023, 11:24 AM

Anyone considering this as their opportunity to get the SBR they always wanted without having to pay the $200 and skip the wait time for the stamp approval?

**EFK** · January 18th, 2023, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by JoshIronshaft

You can remove the brace and install a stock once it is registered.

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...ilizing-braces

Click the link to open the FAQ pdf under "What Do You Need To Know?"

Then you can read this on page 4 to page 5:

Wowee (serious, not sarc). Well if that's the case then I guess I can kind of see why people might jump on it, although I still think that the whole thing is a shitty backdoor attempt at compiling some kind of 'list.'

**Walleye Hunter** · January 18th, 2023, 12:09 PM

I'm wondering if I should take advantage of this to get a free SBR approval. Do we still need to get them etched? It looked to me like they could be left with the original mfgs markings but I do get lost in all that mumbo jumbo.

**JaySmith** · January 18th, 2023, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter

I'm wondering if I should take advantage of this to get a free SBR approval. Do we still need to get them etched? It looked to me like they could be left with the original mfgs markings but I do get lost in all that mumbo jumbo.

Yes, you need the engraving with your real name unless it was transferred into a trust.

What I'm not sure about is where PMF's come in. I'm assuming they'd have to be serialized first.

**akley88** · January 18th, 2023, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by GunLawyer001

Unless SBR's are frozen like MG's, they won't have much bonus value over Title I rifles or pistols. Which would make no sense to do another '86 ban, but they never let that stop them before.

The only thing you save between a $200 Form 1 making of an SBR, and a $200 Form 4 transfer, is the cost and effort of markings. And a Form 4 keeps your personal info off a gun.

Registering a braced gun now makes sense if you personally want an SBR with a govt $200-off coupon. Otherwise, not so much. Braces are not so great shoulder stocks, and terrible as wrist braces, so unless you're handicapped & the brace helps, it's better to go SBR, probably.

this is sort of what I'm thinking. its not a bad idea if you want an SBR. i guess i was wondering about the people that go this route then discover the joys of selling later. personally i wouldn't pay the same price for a used sbr unless it was something special knowing there is an additional 200 fee and paper work to deal with. i was kind of wondering if many of these will lose some value.

**Mr_Gixxer** · January 18th, 2023, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter

I'm wondering if I should take advantage of this to get a free SBR approval. Do we still need to get them etched? It looked to me like they could be left with the original mfgs markings but I do get lost in all that mumbo jumbo.

No.

Take "advantage" all you want, it just requires you to admit on paper that you committed a felony.

Don't talk to police, ESPECIALLY the GayTF.