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January 17th, 2023, 11:57 AM #161Super Member
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Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
so would that mean you could not possess/use item(s) until the stamp is in hand like any other NFA item? this will also help kill the sales of real things under the NFA like suppressors cause having to wait years potentially would prevent most buyers from spending the money.
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January 17th, 2023, 12:34 PM #162Grand Member
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They will not be able to process the form ones, 8 Nfa examiners process SBR's now . there is no way that they will process 40 million sbr requests in 120 days, It would take about 69 years for 8 nfa examiners working 40 hrs a week to complete this process. This is just bullshit from the ATF, they know that the current old very old system won't be able handle this. I just printed the 17 page ATF guide for filing on your pistol braced firearm, 17 pages of nonsense, so after the 120 days many of us will fall into the felon category because your applications will not be completed and you won't have your stamp. this could take up to five years to reach the Supreme Court. This is just the ATF telling firearm owners to fuck off, if they get away with this they will be coming after your AK and AR rifles next! what really sucks about this is many firearm owners never vote and don't stand up for our rights , in the end we then send more jackasses to DC who then take our rights away. This has been coming for along time! If we don't stand up now in the very near future we won't have any rights left!
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January 17th, 2023, 12:39 PM #163
Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
Anyone else care to step up?
F*#K THE ATF
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January 17th, 2023, 12:50 PM #164
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I don't see where I gave a timeline of my intention, but I'm not holding my breath or waiting until day 119 for a court to save us. How long has it been since they pulled this shit with bumpstocks? 2+ years right
Ideally I'd love to see the .gov get a shit load of form 1s that they decline tax for, and then the courts tell them after they process those that the new rules are a"no-go" and everybody else gets to keep their braces. Everybody wins & ATF/gov loses. That's how I would like to see this play out. I can dream right?"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
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January 17th, 2023, 01:04 PM #165
Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
Actually form 1s were being approved in a matter of weeks.
ARJohnson had an MP5 approval of 12 days. see below
https://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.p...92#post4700392"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
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January 17th, 2023, 01:10 PM #166Super Member
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Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
guess thats one thing i havent seen was if these will be form 1 or 4, most things i read didnt go that deep. im sure there will be tons returned for errors by people who are unfamiliar with the process and are just going to give in for a "free" stamp. the turn around times will be slowed down from the current rate would be my guess due to shear volume.
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January 17th, 2023, 01:13 PM #167Grand Member
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SAF lawsuit. Click on donate.
https://www.saf.org/saf-rips-atf-fin...-move-forward/
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January 17th, 2023, 01:22 PM #168
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Last edited by ExFlyinguy; January 17th, 2023 at 03:34 PM.
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
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January 17th, 2023, 02:28 PM #169
Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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January 17th, 2023, 02:47 PM #170Super Member
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Re: ATF Just Released Their Brace Ruling
So what happens if/when the ATF does the same thing they did with solvent traps? That is likely the end game here, the ATF gives this grace period but nobody actually gets approved within that period. They then say that these aren't eligible to turn into SBR's because you were already in possession of an SBR and must destroy it or hand over to the ATF.
The whole thing is just a giant fucking mess that will hopefully end in limbo until the courts overall this overreach.
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