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December 7th, 2022, 11:46 PM #21
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December 7th, 2022, 11:59 PM #22Super Member
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December 8th, 2022, 12:20 AM #23
Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
Let me don my curmudgeon cap...back in my day, you had to walk a distance to a designated bus stop. Depending on where you lived and where the bus stop was, it could be as much as a half mile or more. Nowadays, the little darlings get picked up right in front of their house. So, bus drivers have little time to engage the yellows before the reds have to come on again as they go down the street stopping at one house and then the next. This is how it is around where I live. It's bullshit if you have the misfortune of getting stuck behind this ridiculousness.
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December 8th, 2022, 12:27 AM #24
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December 8th, 2022, 01:27 AM #25Grand Member
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Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
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December 8th, 2022, 03:18 AM #26Grand Member
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Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
If you look at section b(2) of that law :
(2) A rebuttable presumption shall exist that the owner of the vehicle was the driver at the time of the alleged violation.
I suspect what happen was in any traffic offense the police have to identify the driver in court. So even a driver passed a school bus with the the lights flashing and the stop sign arm extended and someone got the plate and description of the offending vehicle the witness needs to identify the driver. Since that is nearly impossible for a school bus driver to do, they decided to add a civil penalty and make the owner of the vehicle responsible no matter who is driving.
My question to the OP is, being an attorney can this law or at least the aforementioned portion of it be challenged in the courts? Is it constitutionally valid?
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December 8th, 2022, 06:29 AM #27Grand Member
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Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
I watched a bus driver sitting and waiting for a car to start passing before she threw the stop sign and lights. I saw her do it multiple times in front of my house. I'm not sure why she did this. Maybe just to be an asshole.
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December 8th, 2022, 06:58 AM #28
Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
And back in the day if you weren't at the stop the bus didn't stop. Today they stop and wait while little Alice and Bob stroll down the driveway with mommy, wait a little longer while mommy exchanges words with the driver, and then wait another little longer while the kids meander down the aisle looking for a good seat.
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December 8th, 2022, 08:25 AM #29
Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
Maryland has red light and speed cameras. (This is where these bus cameras are heading. Stop them from coming to PA at all costs. The programs are corrupt to their cores)
Anyway MD used to ticket the car's owner. They got sued. Now the tickets go to the car's owner but in order to transfer liability you have to sign an affidavit that another person was driving, name that person, and testify in court that they were driving.
So they give you an opportunity to claim it wasn't you, but force you to name a family member/friend in court. So no one does it.
This is a revenue stream. Nothing else.
In MD they doctor the speed detection equipment, sign off on obviously bad tickets (red light running where the car is clearly stopped, etc)
It's all revenue driven because a private company takes 60% of the ticket revenue. So they are incentivized to cheat.
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December 8th, 2022, 09:25 AM #30
Re: "Civil penalty" for passing a school bus, 75 PaCS § 3345.1
I used to walk 1/4 mile up route 23 to my bus stop and i don't recall any of this being an issue back then. And if that bus stop is on a curve and it's dangerous, that's not due to design of the bus stop, it's due to the house being built at that spot because the buses stop at every driveway any more. Maybe kids shouldn't be allowed to live in such a dangerous place. If they were really concerned about the kids' safety, they would haul the kids to the nearest shopping mall, where the bus could pick them up and not have all these problems. But that would take some parental involvement and we can't be having too much of that.
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