Can PA State Parks Ban Carry?

[giant_g2]

It was recently brought to my attention that DCNR can make any regulations they want so long as it's about "safety", including regulating firearms. I'm wondering if they could theoretically ban carry on state park property, or if preemption prevents that.

[bogey1]

Conceal.

[PAMedic=F|A=]

It was recently brought to my attention that DCNR can make any regulations they want so long as it's about "safety", including regulating firearms. I'm wondering if they could theoretically ban carry on state park property, or if preemption prevents that.

No. They can not.

[giant_g2]

No. They can not.

Ok, why? I'm looking for the law or case law saying they can't.

[Walleye Hunter]

Ok, why? I'm looking for the law or case law saying they can't.

Look for PA preemption.

[Bang]

Core Creek Park in Bucks had to change its signs when confronted with preemption. I watched it happen.

[jthrelf]

I would have to imagine it would require legislation. And with the absence of said legislation, they can't ban guns in state parks because that's not laid out in the Uniform Firearms Act.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...hoice=suppress

The absence of banning in state parks in there is your reference.

[giant_g2]

Look for PA preemption.

So the specific preemption clause 18 PA.C.S. § 6120 mentions municipalities and such, but no mention of state agencies like DCNR. I know there were some issues around other agencies like Penn DOT and the gaming commission (casinos) banning carry that were overturned. I'm wondering what the difference is for DCNR being able to regulate the use of firearms.

[giant_g2]

I would have to imagine it would require legislation. And with the absence of said legislation, they can't ban guns in state parks because that's not laid out in the Uniform Firearms Act.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...hoice=suppress

The absence of banning in state parks in there is your reference.

Then how can DCNR restrict the use of centerfire and rimfire rifles and handguns? In the case of handguns, they should fit the strict definition of "firearm". Or does the law only protect specific uses, like self defense (didn't see that restriction in the law)?

[DK23]

Core Creek Park in Bucks had to change its signs when confronted with preemption. I watched it happen.

When was that? I used to carry while mountain biking there and never saw any signs. Ok, maybe I didn't look for any signs is more accurate.