Under 21 OC without permit

[tallbump]

I know you don't need a permit to open carry if you are under 21 even without a permit

But I believe that is suspended under a state of emergency. Last I knew we have been under one for one reason or another for the last few years?

Is that still under effect? My daughter will by 19 in a about a month and has been wanting to carry

[Walleye Hunter]

I know you don't need a permit to open carry if you are under 21 even without a permit

But I believe that is suspended under a state of emergency. Last I knew we have been under one for one reason or another for the last few years?

Is that still under effect? My daughter will by 19 in a about a month and has been wanting to carry

Other than here, I haven't heard anyone mention that caveat about the SOE. Is she going to walk out the front door and carry on? Or how is she going to get the gun to where she's going to carry? Transporting for the purpose of OCing is not permissible.

[Hudson8x57]

Transporting for the purpose of OCing is not permissible.

Even if it's transported unloaded and cased, separate from the ammunition? I can't find the part of the legislation that covers open carry at the moment, but I seem to recall it falls under the same part that covers transport for hunting, target shooting, etc.

[Walleye Hunter]

Even if it's transported unloaded and cased, separate from the ammunition? I can't find the part of the legislation that covers open carry at the moment, but I seem to recall it falls under the same part that covers transport for hunting, target shooting, etc.

Read the part that covers permissible transport. If it is not specifically mentioned there, it is excluded.

[gnbrotz]

There is no current state of emergency. The legislature limited the governor's power because of the ongoing covid fiasco. Now, after 60 days, the legislature must approve any continuance.

Even unloaded and cased, unlicensed persons are limited to statutory exceptions when carrying/moving a gun outside of their home (PA law does not address or define "transport").

Minor or not, unlicensed OC is pretty much limited to remaining on foot, unless making a trip that falls under one of the scenarios specifically exempt from licensing.

[knight0334]

Even if it's transported unloaded and cased, separate from the ammunition? I can't find the part of the legislation that covers open carry at the moment, but I seem to recall it falls under the same part that covers transport for hunting, target shooting, etc.

Merely having a "firearm" in/on/upon a vehicle requires a LTCF as a PA resident. PA only exempts going to/from certain places. ...just to carry isn't one of them.

It is the same crime to carry a "firearm" in a vehicle without a LTCF as it is to carry concealed without a LTCF. ...the conviction of which and you lose your gun rights for life.

The exemptions are here: Section (b), and before (b)(9) and (10)(hunting, fishing, trapping and dog training) are afforded, you must have at minimum a Sportsmans Permit under section (c).

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...tn=6&subsctn=0

[jthrelf]

There are limited circumstances where she can OC.

The practical example I always use is walking the dog. Get her squared away with a good retention holster and make sure she's up to the responsibility for her occasions on foot.

[tallbump]

I didn't think about transport. I have had my permit for like 10 years now, so I forgot how weird the transport laws are.

I guess as long as I am with her, it wouldn't matter?

[SevenMilePete]

Even if it's transported unloaded and cased, separate from the ammunition? I can't find the part of the legislation that covers open carry at the moment, but I seem to recall it falls under the same part that covers transport for hunting, target shooting, etc.

Yes. You can't even stop at a restaurant for lunch with weapons in your car on the way back home from a range, to the best of my knowledge.

§ 6106(b)(4), one can lawfully transport a firearm, as defined by PA, “if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.”

To...or from....not to or from and stopping to have a drink, buy groceries, or even take a crap.

[tallbump]

Sorry, guess my question was too brief.

I was thinking about the gun being in the car, say in a safe in the cargo area or something. Our car is registered in my name. I am a licensed carried, and it's my car. Nothing banning my from transporting a weapon.

We get out, she throws the gun on her hip, there we go