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    Default Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    This shotgun has a 14 inch barrel. How is it not a short barreled shotgun under Federal and for that matter, state law?

    https://palmettostatearmory.com/rock...term=afternoon

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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    Read the text. It's all right there.
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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    Here you go...

    VRF-14 semi automatic 12 gauge shotgun from Rock Island Armory. With a barrel length of 14", this shotgun maintains a minimum length of 26" for NFA.
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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    I read that. It didn*t make any sense to me. Don*t PA and Federal law state a barrel 18 inches or over and a minimum overall length?

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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    If there*s no butt stock perhaps it is an AOW?

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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    Shotguns are designed to be fired from a shoulder, so this isn't a shotgun, since it doesn't have a stock.

    And because it's longer than 26", it's not an AOW.

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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    If there*s no butt stock perhaps it is an AOW?
    Sorry. Someone else will need to post the relevant legal mumbo jumbo.
    I don't have any interest in such guns, so I don't memorize the legalities, but it's right there - it has to do with the length and the barrel, and whatever.
    Pretty much like the Shockwave "shotgun" and how it's not a SBS and perfectly legal to own without paperwork.

    It's obviously legal or they wouldn't be selling it.
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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Sorry. Someone else will need to post the relevant legal mumbo jumbo.
    I don't have any interest in such guns, so I don't memorize the legalities, but it's right there - it has to do with the length and the barrel, and whatever.
    Pretty much like the Shockwave "shotgun" and how it's not a SBS and perfectly legal to own without paperwork.

    It's obviously legal or they wouldn't be selling it.
    I*m not interested in it either. I just want to understand the law.

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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooBigToFit View Post
    Shotguns are designed to be fired from a shoulder, so this isn't a shotgun, since it doesn't have a stock.

    And because it's longer than 26", it's not an AOW.
    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Education needed. Why is this not a SBS?

    It's a firearm, not a shotgun because it never had a stock. Just like the Mossberg Shockwave and Remington TAC 14.

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