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    Default Strict gun bill on Oregon ballot

    Strict gun bill on Oregon ballot will cause 'greater risk of violence,' harmful to public safety, critics warn
    Oregon voters will consider a gun control measure that opponents say would 'virtually eliminate firearm sales' in the state


    Gun control opponents worry an Oregon ballot measure will make their communities less safe since police agencies will be forced to fund and operate a massive permit-to-purchase program.

    "This is the most extreme gun control measure in the country, or at least one of the most extreme," Oregon State Shooting Association President Kerry Spurgin told Fox News. "It will virtually eliminate firearm sales in Oregon as written."

    If approved, Measure 114 would require a background check, hands-on firearm training, fingerprint collection and a permit to purchase a gun. Police would be required to maintain an electronic, searchable database of all firearm permits.

    The measure would also outlaw ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds.
    Supporters believe the measure, also known as the Reduction of Gun Violence Act, will curb homicides, suicides and accidental shootings.

    "When our neighbors are bleeding, we cannot stand idly by," Rev. Mark Knutson, one of the chief petitioners for the measure, told The Oregonian. "We had an imperative to act."

    The interfaith group Lift Every Voice Oregon crafted the measure and collected more than 130,000 signatures to place it on the ballot. Representatives of Lift Every Voice Oregon did not respond to emails requesting an interview.
    Oregon already requires a background check on gun sales, but Measure 114 would duplicate the process, according to the Oregon State Sheriffs Association. It would also require local police departments to create and fund programs to issue permits.

    "This measure will not make our community safer," Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said in a video statement. "It will put our communities at greater risk for violence because it requires that every sheriff's office and police agency divert scarce public safety resources to background systems that already exist."


    The state sheriffs' association expects the bill will cost local governments $49 million annually, though permit fees would bring in up to $19.5 million a year based on an estimated 300,000 annual applications.

    The high-capacity magazine ban would kick in 180 days after the bill's passage, but it's not clear how soon a permit would be required to purchase a gun. Opponents say the level of training required by the bill is not immediately available, leading to concerns that it will effectively stop firearm sales in Oregon.

    The state could pause gun sales until the new systems is up and running, but University of Oregon constitutional law professor Ofer Raban told OPB such a move would quickly be challenged. It's more likely gun sales would continue as usual until the firearms safety courses and permitting system were established, OPB reported.

    Six states and Washington, D.C., require a permit to purchase any gun, while several other states require a permit to buy handguns, according to Ballotpedia.

    A poll commissioned by The Oregonian showed 51% of likely voters support the measure.

    If Measure 114 passes, legal challenges will likely follow. The state sheriffs' association noted the Supreme Court recently ordered the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to revisit its ruling upholding a similar magazine ban in California.

    "Unfortunately, that will cost Oregon time, money, and it's going to impact Oregon citizens, law-abiding citizens," Spurgin said.

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    Default Re: Strict gun bill on Oregon ballot

    all of this only affects lawful gun owners and until the idiots that vote for these people see it, they will keep pushing this bullshit.

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    Default Re: Strict gun bill on Oregon ballot

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out*because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out*because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out*because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me*and there was no one left to speak for me.

    *Martin Niemöller

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    Default Re: Strict gun bill on Oregon ballot

    The outcome of this vote does not supersede the Constitution or any Supreme Court ruling. Soldier on.
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    Default Re: Strict gun bill on Oregon ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by tlnzz1 View Post
    The outcome of this vote does not supersede the Constitution or any Supreme Court ruling. Soldier on.
    NY, NJ and CA have all shown they dont care what the supreme court says. Look at PA dems with the supreme court and undated ballots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akley88 View Post
    NY, NJ and CA have all shown they dont care what the supreme court says. Look at PA dems with the supreme court and undated ballots.
    Look at our Republican law makers who caused the problem and did NOTHING to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qtrborecrazy View Post
    Look at our Republican law makers who caused the problem and did NOTHING to fix it.
    1/2 right, 1/2 wrong. They did try to fix it when they realized what had been done. Legislation passed on party lines, vetoed by Tom Wolf. It's still unconstitutional.
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    I don't like guns. I hate guns. I wish they had never been invented. I'm for any law making having a gun harder to do if it saves one life.
    Imagine how many lives will be saved during the 180 day wait for the magazine limit to go into affect. Oh, wait....
    There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.

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    Good! Opens the pathway for Federal lawsuits for violation of the 2nd Amend. And they*ll lose. Dems keep doing this to themselves. Soon to be no more Magazine restriction in these States as per SCOTUS. In the end, they are going to lose it all.
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    Yep. They keep creating law suits using taxpayer monies while we spend our own personal discretionary funds fighting them.
    There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.

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