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  1. #31
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    Default Re: PICS delay? PSP is violating your rights, after Sep 2nd in violation of Court Ord

    Quote Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post
    So you're syaing that the records are NOT destroyed after 72 hours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xringshooter View Post
    Guess what, they enter the info from the SP4-113 into a database. If there is something incorrect or missing (that they have to see/have) a copy gets sent to the FFL for correction and return (the cover letter says to do it within 7 days or your PICS PRIVILEGES can be suspended.) At this point in time they are 16 to 18 MONTHS in arrears of getting the info inputted to the database.
    Yep, not even close, those records sit in boxes for months, some times even years, before they might get destroyed. In years past, when I was in the HQ building on Elmerton Ave., there were paper records stacked & stored in the alcoves of hallways (not sure of what). If someone really wanted to push the issue, the 72 hour record destruction requirement would be a major thorn in the side of PSP. Of course they would argue the records are secure, it's doing no harm, we don't have a registry, we don't share with the feds, blah, blah, blah... The higher levels of state police management are no better than the dirtbag politicians they work with.

    That might be an interesting FOIA request: how many purchase records are destroyed each year, and what is the average time before destruction?
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    Default Re: PICS delay? PSP is violating your rights, after Sep 2nd in violation of Court Ord

    Quote Originally Posted by Jhaydeno View Post
    But then the PSP could not continuously violate the *not a registry* registry of all firearms transactions, against the laws of this commonwealth. You know, the paperwork that is supposed to be destroyed after 72 hours*.
    Don't ever tell a PSP Trooper that. I thought one was going to arrest me when I said something like, that's not really legal, is it?

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    Default Re: PICS delay? PSP is violating your rights, after Sep 2nd in violation of Court Ord

    Most of the times I've run checks that took a while the guys had something going on, or pendot DL computer was down.

    Only once was it BS -the guy was a Sheriff's deputy.
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