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    Default For the NYC crowd…

    Appears the city has had to CAVE IN…

    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/...-carry-handgun

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911Operator View Post
    Appears the city has had to CAVE IN*

    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/...-carry-handgun
    But the've passed another law that makes it effectively there is no place you can legally carry in NYC even if you do have the license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t1066 View Post
    But the've passed another law that makes it effectively there is no place you can legally carry in NYC even if you do have the license.
    I am not advocating anything but does anyone know if these new laws are a felony violation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t1066 View Post
    But the've passed another law that makes it effectively there is no place you can legally carry in NYC even if you do have the license.
    No doubt there will be many attempts to create "sensitive restricted areas" but Bruen does caution that they must be justifiable
    historically in their modern application. We may be looking at a period of turmoil where a plethora of these new attempts to effectively nullify Bruen are appealed and subsequently ruled invalid.


    From page 22 of NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ASSN., INC. v. Bruen, Supreme Court 2022

    But expanding the category of “sensitive places” simply to all places of public congregation that are not isolated from law enforcement defines the category of “sensitive places” far too broadly. Respondents’ argument would in effect exempt cities from the Second Amendment and would eviscerate the general right to publicly carry arms for self-defense that we discuss in detail below. See Part III–B, infra. Put simply, there is no historical basis for New York to effectively declare the island of Manhattan a “sensitive place” simply because it is crowded and protected generally by the New York City Police Department.
    IANAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tl_3237 View Post
    No doubt there will be many attempts to create "sensitive restricted areas" but Bruen does caution that they must be justifiable
    historically in their modern application. We may be looking at a period of turmoil where a plethora of these new attempts to effectively nullify Bruen are appealed and subsequently ruled invalid.


    From page 22 of NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ASSN., INC. v. Bruen, Supreme Court 2022
    Yeah and they suffer no consequences for their actions and our money is spent on both side of the litigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    I am not advocating anything but does anyone know if these new laws are a felony violation?
    CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN IN A SENSITIVE LOCATION IS A CLASS E FELONY.
    IANAL

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    Fuck New York City
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    Default Re: For the NYC crowd…

    Quote Originally Posted by tl_3237 View Post
    No doubt there will be many attempts to create "sensitive restricted areas" but Bruen does caution that they must be justifiable
    historically in their modern application. We may be looking at a period of turmoil where a plethora of these new attempts to effectively nullify Bruen are appealed and subsequently ruled invalid.


    From page 22 of NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ASSN., INC. v. Bruen, Supreme Court 2022
    Yes, it is clearly a violation of the Bruen decision (I meant they specifically say you can't make all of Manhattan a sensitive area, then the state passes a law that does actually do that) but it will take SCOTUS taking the cases and slapping down NYS to actually change things. If they do, things will eventually improve.

    I've got my fingers crossed that for the next few years SCOTUS will take as many 2A cases as they do 1A cases.

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