Ejection issue, AR

[Spaceballs]

I like the limp shouldering issue. Try placing the butt against something stable.

1) That's what she said.

2) With me firing it standing and keeping it firmly in my shoulder I wasn't having any problems. Same day alternating shooters. Problems were only with the other shooter.

[Noah_Zark]

I would think if it was a thing broken in the extractor that it would cause the error every single time or close to it. Same with gas problems. Not 2 out of 60 shots. Agree or not?

No.

About the limp shouldering..... are you serious?

Yes.

You thinking the recoil made the rifle jump back so the ejection port moved while the spent casing was trying to eject?

No.

You asked for possible causes. You have them. A list does not mean that all possible causes are required or present. It's up to you to verify the presence or absence of any of those conditions. And don't forget ammo; if you're all shooting multiple flavors of ammo during your range session, variations in ammo together with a weak extractor and a sbooter not firmly holding the rifle (e.g., butt is not firmly against the shoulder and is "riding up" above the shoulder, strange things can happen. It may be one thing, it might be a combination.

Noah

[Pag23]

Check out M4 carbine.net for more info...

But it might be the shooter's grip or they slightly moving the gun when pulling the trigger if the rifle isn't up against their shoulder pocket and the bcg moves slightly causing the extractor issue.

[Spaceballs]

Check out M4 carbine.net for more info...

But it might be the shooter's grip or they slightly moving the gun when pulling the trigger if the rifle isn't up against their shoulder pocket and the bcg moves slightly causing the extractor issue.

This all makes sense and is really interesting

If the body of the gun is moving backwards as the BCG is moving backwards within it, the BCG isn't going to go as far back. And the timing is going to be off.

Could also be a buffer spring issue not being stiff enough but since this only happened with a different shooter I am going to assume it was user error for now until the problem replicates with me shooting.

I also found this high speed video of extraction problems on an AR-10. Not sure what caused this guy's problem but that is exactly the result I was getting. The spent casing was turned all the way around and facing the wrong way inside the upper receiver with the new round trying to push under it into the chamber. In any case the high speed is fun to watch.

https://youtu.be/56nzgN8SBbI

[Spaceballs]

Also thank you to everyone in this thread. This has been educational and enlightening. I never would have thought user error could cause an ejection issue. Now I understand how easily it could.

It still could be a faulty part (I heard everyone who suggested issues with the extractor components..that was my first thought too...but those all seem okay on inspection) But I am leaning towards new shooter holding it wrong for now. And I didn't consider that to be realistic before this thread.

[Ronin]

Step 1 - Throw in garbage.

Step 2 - Buy an AK.

The End

[Spaceballs]

Step 1 - Throw in garbage.

Step 2 - Buy an AK.

The End

I'm too big for an AK. The tiny little stocks they put on them for short Russians wearing heavy winter coats means I'd be having all kinds of fouling issues from not keeping the stock firmly seated in my shoulder

Lousy short armed communists....

[Ronin]

I'm too big for an AK. The tiny little stocks they put on them for short Russians wearing heavy winter coats means I'd be having all kinds of fouling issues from not keeping the stock firmly seated in my shoulder

Lousy short armed communists....

They do make bigger/adjustable stocks. You can even put your AR stock one... The helpfulness just keeps rolling in.

[cdi]

Don*t listen to that Ronin. I have it on excellent authority that he is an apostate of perdition and would tempt you to the dark side.
Everyone knows, the AK is the weapon of our enemies. Bring your sickly AR to me, I*ll convince it to behave.

[Ronin]

Don*t listen to that Ronin. I have it on excellent authority that he is an apostate of perdition and would tempt you to the dark side.
Everyone knows, the AK is the weapon of our enemies. Bring your sickly AR to me, I*ll convince it to behave.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


(Seriously, though, if you need work done on your AR, take it to cdi. He'll fix your hurt.)