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November 24th, 2022, 04:37 PM #181Active Member
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Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
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November 24th, 2022, 04:43 PM #182Active Member
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Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
Your analogy was terrible because it used a personal budgeting problem as an example when government overreach and control were the issue.
I rarely miss when hunting and don*t consider shooting faster at a moving target to be the solution to a missed first shot. There is zero reason to believe more people will be killed with semiautomatic rifles. You are making things up.
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November 25th, 2022, 01:49 AM #183Junior Member
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Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
I don't think that the pagc is doing anything inherently unconstitutional given that hunting is thing that is least protected by the 2nd, but I am of the opinion that the rules should be changed to reasonably accommodate the modern market. If there is no data proving that the law is making people safer, then the default is not to have it. I also think the single round thing would be better than what we currently have, but I would much prefer 2 since you might want a follow up shot if you wound the animal. Single loading a semi auto can be tedious and prolong the suffering of a deer. Even an average public gamelands hunter can whiff a deer, cycle the action on his 30-30, and blast a round over the hilltop in a fraction of a second. Pros can get 3+ rounds adventuring through the atmosphere using 19th century weaponry in the blink of an eye, so I don't see 2 rounds in an AR being a deal breaker compared to any other repeating arm.
From my perspective there are two clear benefits. First, accessibility. The first rifle someone will buy these days is probably an AR, because home defense and preparing for the apocalypse currently outpace hunting in terms of broad appeal. Many people, myself included, had to buy a gun specifically for hunting rather than being able to use what I had. Second, there is a lot of innovation in the semi-auto hunting market that PA hunters are excluded from. 450 Bushmaster and 350 Legend were AR calibers before they were chambered in bolt guns. Some people also like the notion of being able to swap an upper and kill a deer using the same system they practice the most at the range with. ARs are also fully free-floated if you have an aluminum forend, which comes with some accuracy advantages. ARs are also weatherproof, while cheap bolt guns rust. Hell, many high-end precision bolt guns are modeled after the AR platform now because it is extremely well designed. There is no "need" argument because with enough $$$ you can get a boltgun that does anything you could want, but in my opinion it just needlessly makes things less accessible. I'd need to spend $2k to get a rifle that I can shoot as well as my $1k AR.
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December 3rd, 2022, 11:52 AM #184Active Member
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Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
I have a suppressor coming for my ar and would like to use it when I take my young son hunting. Every AR platform rifle has a threaded barrel.
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December 3rd, 2022, 01:08 PM #185
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December 4th, 2022, 11:00 AM #186Active Member
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December 4th, 2022, 11:44 AM #187
Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
But you can with this...
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Or this [without the light]...
franklin-armory-ca-7-w-kali-key-v0-0u20jgfb94p91-picsay.jpgLast edited by Mr_Gixxer; December 4th, 2022 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Edited text for second photo
Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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December 4th, 2022, 12:25 PM #188
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December 4th, 2022, 12:27 PM #189
Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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December 4th, 2022, 01:20 PM #190
Re: Why do you think PA resists allowing semi auto rifles for deer hunting?
Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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