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Thread: 12 guage 00 buck question
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July 15th, 2022, 05:48 PM #1
12 guage 00 buck question
I am new to shotguns. Very amature trying to learn.
Today I patterned a Remington 870 12 gauge I have set up as a home defense gun with a shorter police barrel.
I used 3 loads to experiment with. All 00 Buck.
Hornaday Critical Defense and Federal (both with a flight control wad by different names) worked great for a home defense purpose with super tight 1.5" -2" groups at 7 yards and were dead on accurate for my point of aim. The Federals performed slightly better and are now my HD round of choice.
But Remington shells without a flight control wad were 9 inch groups (roughly) at that distance. That doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies for defensive rounds. Too much chance for a flyer to hit something I don't want hit.
Would those Remington shells perform better with a longer barrel? Like for hunting...not home defense. Or does my shotgun just hate the Remington rounds?
I have a longer barrel...I just didn't bring it with me to test it.
I have 95 of those Remington shells (A guy wanted to sell them cheap and I love a bargain). Now I am wondering if they have any value to me or if I should try to trade them for something else. I'm not a hunter.May the Schwartz Be With You
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July 15th, 2022, 08:24 PM #2
Re: 12 guage 00 buck question
I'm no expert, but I think the rems can be controlled by chokes, but the flight wads are independent of choke.
I personally wouldn't care about a 9" group unless you're in such a high density victim area (kids' bedrooms?) that
it starts to be a concern. 9" on just about any badguy is GTG in my book...SigGendered
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July 15th, 2022, 08:35 PM #3
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July 15th, 2022, 11:06 PM #4
Re: 12 guage 00 buck question
I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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July 15th, 2022, 11:19 PM #5
Re: 12 guage 00 buck question
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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July 16th, 2022, 12:20 AM #6
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July 16th, 2022, 07:47 AM #7
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July 16th, 2022, 10:24 AM #8
Re: 12 guage 00 buck question
The whole idea of using a shotgun is to get the spread.
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges
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July 16th, 2022, 03:46 PM #9
Re: 12 guage 00 buck question
This^^^^^
You can control the amount of spread with the choke. If it's a recent police barrel it's probably 18" with an Improved Cylinder fixed choke. If it has screw in chokes and you want to tighten the pattern you would use a modified or full choke. A 9" spread of .30 caliber round lead projectiles is perfectly fine for home defense as long as you are not concerned with penetration into other rooms of the house. The rounds with flight control are designed for much longer distances and any 00 Buck at home defense ranges are fine as long as you are fine with the amount of collateral damage that is caused. Make sure to watch the Paul Harrell video Empty posted. It's pretty thorough.Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC
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July 16th, 2022, 04:36 PM #10
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