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    Default NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Due to the recent SCOTUS ruling of the eliminating a valid reason for apply for a conceal license/permit, NY state wasted no time in passing legislation making their carry permits almost worthless. Here is a sample of what the new law will do.

    • SENSITIVE PLACES' WHERE GUNS ARE BANNED. New York's proposed list of such places includes: government buildings, medical facilities, places of worship, libraries, playgrounds, parks, zoos, schools, summer camps, addiction-support centers, homeless shelters, nursing homes, public transit including the New York City subway, places where alcohol or marijuana is consumed, museums, theaters, stadiums, polling places and New York City's Times Square. In other words just about everywhere.
    • Private businesses will be presumed to be gun-free zones unless their owners say otherwise. So private businesses will have to display a sign allowing firearms not the other way around.
    • The bill would require applicants for concealed-carry permits to submit their current and former social media accounts from the last three years to review by the licensing officer, usually a judge or police official, to weigh the applicant's "character and conduct."
    • Applicants must complete at least 15 hours of in-person firearms safety training, and at least two hours of training at a firing range, where they must prove their shooting proficiency according to standards to be developed by state police.
    • Applicants must meet for an in-person interview with the licensing officer and provide the names and contact information of their spouse or domestic partner, any other adults they live with and say whether children are in their home. They must provide four character references.
    • The permit holder will be subjected to monthly background checks and social media monitoring.


    It’s a felony to violate any of the above which will be very easy to do. Also this law pertains to the whole state not just NYC.


    ALBANY, N.Y. (1010 WINS) -- The New York State legislature passed a sweeping gun control bill on Friday in response to the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down a century-old New York law that required “proper cause” to carry a weapon in public.

    Gov. Kathy Hochul called a special legislative session on Thursday and Friday in order to push through the gun control changes.
    After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that enshrined abortion rights in the U.S., Hochul also used the special session to advocate for a state constitutional amendment that would safeguard reproductive rights and expand protections for transgender New Yorkers.

    That amendment is still working its way through the legislature, but Hochul said at a press conference Friday afternoon that legislators had come to a “conceptual agreement."
    She said she expected the amendment to pass Friday evening.

    Once Hochul signs the new gun bill into law, it will allow gun owners to apply for concealed carry licenses, but would restrict where weapons could be brought.
    For example, guns would only be allowed in businesses if the owner put up a sign explicitly allowing it.

    Other off-limits locations include demonstrations, schools, healthcare facilities, parks, Times Square, public transit, bars, polling places, entertainment venues and more.
    It will be a felony to bring a gun to a restricted area.

    Gun license applicants will be subject to interviews, social media monitoring and monthly background checks. They will also need to undergo 15 hours of training at a firing range, provide contact information for household members and renew their licenses every three years.

    Permits will be denied for a broader range of criminal offenses.
    The bill also contains a slew of other provisions and rules surrounding the purchase of ammunition and gun accessories, the storage of weapons and other minutiae for gun ownership.

    It allows for local governments to impose even tighter gun laws if they so choose as well.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fa...ing/ar-AAZ6h5Z

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    Due to the recent SCOTUS ruling of the eliminating a valid reason for apply for a conceal license/permit, NY state wasted no time in passing legislation making their carry permits almost worthless. Here is a sample of what the new law will do.

    • SENSITIVE PLACES' WHERE GUNS ARE BANNED. New York's proposed list of such places includes: government buildings, medical facilities, places of worship, libraries, playgrounds, parks, zoos, schools, summer camps, addiction-support centers, homeless shelters, nursing homes, public transit including the New York City subway, places where alcohol or marijuana is consumed, museums, theaters, stadiums, polling places and New York City's Times Square. In other words just about everywhere.
    • Private businesses will be presumed to be gun-free zones unless their owners say otherwise. So private businesses will have to display a sign allowing firearms not the other way around.
    • The bill would require applicants for concealed-carry permits to submit their current and former social media accounts from the last three years to review by the licensing officer, usually a judge or police official, to weigh the applicant's "character and conduct."
    • Applicants must complete at least 15 hours of in-person firearms safety training, and at least two hours of training at a firing range, where they must prove their shooting proficiency according to standards to be developed by state police.
    • Applicants must meet for an in-person interview with the licensing officer and provide the names and contact information of their spouse or domestic partner, any other adults they live with and say whether children are in their home. They must provide four character references.
    • The permit holder will be subjected to monthly background checks and social media monitoring.


    It*s a felony to violate any of the above which will be very easy to do. Also this law pertains to the whole state not just NYC.




    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fa...ing/ar-AAZ6h5Z
    What a joke. They included just about every place you might need a firearm, except a grocery store. How many years will it take to get this struck down by the Supreme Court? It's restoring a right that can't be used.

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    What a joke. They included just about every place you might need a firearm, except a grocery store. How many years will it take to get this struck down by the Supreme Court? It's restoring a right that can't be used.
    No, one can't carry in a grocery store unless the owner displays a sign indicating firearms are allowed. In addition it will restrict current permit holders who never had these regulations before including holders from the entire state not just NYC.

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    The Lawless controlling the law abiding 🎻

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Firearms Policy Coalition is preparing lawsuits as I type this.
    "The Constitution is the guide which I will not abandon.” - George Washington

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    If that's for the whole state, what a fucking the upstate people just took!! They just lost most of their rights.

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Wars were started over less. We are just too 'civilized' these days.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by R L Suehr View Post
    If that's for the whole state, what a fucking the upstate people just took!! They just lost most of their rights.
    And with the system being rigged it's like ground hog day 😭

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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    I don*t see how this law will stand up to the Bruen test/standards. These people are delusional.
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    Default Re: NY State Carry Permit; is it good for anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia patriot View Post
    I don*t see how this law will stand up to the Bruen test/standards. These people are delusional.
    I don't think they're delusional, I think they're just fucked up assholes. They know they'll lose this round in a couple or few years then they'll drop back and punt another round. All because they suffer no loss from doing so.
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