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Thread: Why is it always training?
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June 27th, 2022, 10:54 PM #21
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June 27th, 2022, 11:06 PM #22
Re: Why is it always training?
I received 46 years of training. The guns dad taught me with are all within 15ft of me as I type this. Shooting, safe handling, cleaning, repairs/maintenance. What dad or any of my uncles didn't teach me, I picked up on my own.
I can tell you which statute covers what. ...maybe not verbatim, but very few lawyers, magistrates, judges, or justices could do that either.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing commercial training. There is certainly a place for it for folks that didn't grow up like you and I.
My belief is - the only way the states could require training is if they require all able-bodied people to arm themselves with a serviceable rifle that is in common use of the time, to appear once every few months/yearly for militia service/training. ...which again would negate that failed argument of their about the prefatory statement in the 2A. Failure to arm one's self or failure to appear would be punishable with prison and fines - the only exemptions would be those that were exempt in the late 1700's, those prohibited from possession(they would have to dig ditches or other public service labor), certain other exemptions for the physically and mentally disabled.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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June 28th, 2022, 04:08 PM #23
Re: Why is it always training?
Simple make the training a requirement for ownership/possession/licensing and set the standard. Then over time increase the goals of the standard, reduce the availability of the classes along with the cost and eventually you have the only "approved" training course offered once a year to a maximum of 20 students at $x,xxx each located in Bumfuque Arkansas.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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June 29th, 2022, 03:02 PM #24
Re: Why is it always training?
Yeah, I had to laugh the other day when CNN posted an article about how some "expert" had dismissed the idea that mass shooters are mentally ill.
Brother, if a person who shoots rooms full of innocent people isn't mentally ill, then the definition of mental illness is wrong.
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June 29th, 2022, 03:44 PM #25
Re: Why is it always training?
Knight0334 - I appreciate your idea but Heller for all practical purposes eliminates the need for militia service.
From wikipedia, but you can read the actual decision if you wish.
The Supreme Court held:
(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2*53.
(a) The Amendment's prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause's text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 2*22
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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June 29th, 2022, 05:02 PM #26
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June 29th, 2022, 05:08 PM #27
Re: Why is it always training?
I realize that. Wasn't really a idea, just a means to counter their asinine argument they always try to make.
Those 'tards keep bringing up the "well regulated" thing, not realizing that if we play that card that the state would have to require every able-bodied person to own a serviceable rifle in common use of the time, and that the state would be required to train them to become better killers. Not that it matters because that "well regulated" portion is just a prefatory statement, not controlling text.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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Re: Why is it always training?
I am constantly running into people who try to assign logic and reason to these obviously insane acts. When I point out what they are doing, it's like I've hit them with a board. Like they've never considered shooting up an elementary school isn't rational. Why do people think mass shooters use the same thought processes as they do? Ultimately, they should be hit with a board. It's disheartening to realize people may be as stupid as I've thought all along.
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July 3rd, 2022, 01:10 PM #29
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July 3rd, 2022, 02:12 PM #30
Re: Why is it always training?
Devil's advocate response.
The 2A says "a well regulated" militia. As we know, "well regulated" means proficient in the use of the arms you keep and bear.
So training is necessary in a world where you are not regularly going out and shooting your food.
Just a thought.
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