Concealed carry needed for a rifle?

[DonBiase]

To be clear, do NOT transport a rifle or shotgun loaded. Nothing in the chamber, nothing in internal magazines, nothing in removable magazine that is installed in the rifle. Removable magazines that are stored in a separate container (a separate pouch in the rifle case or a separate container altogether) is ok to have loaded.

Correct

[DonBiase]

No license required, transport unloaded (there is a specific definition of unloaded - chamber(s) and mag empty, detachable mag that's loaded NOT in same container/bag)

Get a proper case, carboad is not protective or water resistant. $10 at Walmart to start..

I agree, to an extent.
The less others know about what your doing,,,The better.

[ExFlyinguy]

Are you sure about that 16"? I believe that Randy Weaver's problems started when they accused him of shortening a shotgun barrel to 17 3/4".

PA Title 18 https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...&div=0&chpt=61

§ 6102. Definitions.

"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.

"Fund." The Firearm Ownership Fund established in section 6111.3 (relating to Firearm Ownership Fund).


§ 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.

(a) Offense defined.--

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.

(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.

What the hell does Randy Weaver & a shotgun have to do with the OP's question?

[wew3]

What the hell does Randy Weaver & a shotgun have to do with the OP's question?

If the barrel is actually 15 3/4", he could be in a world of hurting.

[fingers80002]

Legal limits are 16" for rifle, 18" for shotgun.
Shorter, and they are NFA items.

[Gunsnwater]

Legal limits are 16" for rifle, 18" for shotgun.
Shorter, and they are NFA items.

And then you can transport loaded under the ltcf remember the cops don*t know the laws though and nfa stuff in evidence rooms is a horrible thought.

[widgetman101]

Long gun - Empty chamber with no magazine inserted, keep loaded magazines in a separate pouch container separate from the gun. You can't have loaded magazines in the same spot of the rifle, an outside pouch would be a separate container

Pistol - You don't need a conceal carry license to transport a pistol to/from the range, you just can't have it loaded so basically follow the same rules as a rifle above. Would highly recommend your LTCF so you can carry a pistol loaded and not worry about it. Without your LTCF that means to/from the range to your residence, don't detour or stop for lunch etc.

[4191775]

What about if the OP want's to stop for something to eat while he's on the road with his rifle?

Can he make a stop without having a LTCF?

Thanks for any advice,

4191775

[knight0334]

What about if the OP want's to stop for something to eat while he's on the road with his rifle?

Can he make a stop without having a LTCF?

Thanks for any advice,

4191775

Doesn't matter. No license is required to have a rifle or shotgun within a vehicle in PA(outside of Philly and absent a State of Emergency).

The long guns must be unloaded though, and any loaded detachable magazines that are suitable for the long guns that are present must be in a separate container.


Example: I can drive all over PA with unloaded rifles and shotguns, so long as they aren't loaded. I can stop anywhere that it isn't otherwise prohibited to have firearms on the property. I can leave those long guns in a vehicle unattended. No license required. You can legally carry a rifle/shotgun under trenchcoat concealed without a LTCF. You can "carry"(transport) a rifle/shotgun on your dash, in a gun rack, encased, etc without a LTCF because it isn't prohibited by law - it just has to be unloaded.


PA's laws regulate carrying "firearms" concealed, or in a vehicle. "Firearm" = handguns with barrels under 15", rifles with barrels under 16", shotguns with barrels under 18" or ANY gun with an overall length under 26".

PA law then requires a LTCF for ANY gun on public domain within Philly or during a State or Emergency.

PA law then requires that long guns(rifles/shotguns that exceed the "firearm" dimensions) to be unloaded in/on/upon a vehicle.