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    Just reading the decision on NYSRPA V Bruen. It sounds to a non-technischen like myself that the SC ruled citizens have a RIGHT to carry outside of the home! Any lawyers available to provide the english translation and implications?

    https://apnews.com/article/supreme-c...f8761ffa84e3e8

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    Can I carry in NJ? Oh man---that would be amazing if that happened. Then I wouldn't resist as much coming to this BS state. Also, I wonder how it affects transport through a state as well.

    Update---a note from Free Republic commentary:

    The way I read the ruling, it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home. That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.

    From the ruling page 3:

    "(1) It is undisputed that petitioners Koch and Nash*two ordinary, law-abiding, adult citizens*are part of *the people* whom the
    Second Amendment protects. See Heller, 554 U. S., at 580. And no
    party disputes that handguns are weapons *in common use* today for
    self-defense. See id., at 627. The Court has little difficulty concluding
    also that the plain text of the Second Amendment protects Koch*s and
    Nash*s proposed course of conduct*carrying handguns publicly for
    self-defense. Nothing in the Second Amendment*s text draws a
    home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear
    arms, and the definition of *bear* naturally encompasses public carry.
    Moreover, the Second Amendment guarantees an *individual right to
    possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation,* id., at 592, and
    confrontation can surely take place outside the home. Pp. 23*27

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...0-843_7j80.pdf
    Last edited by mikelets456; June 23rd, 2022 at 11:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikelets456 View Post
    Can I carry in NJ? Oh man---that would be amazing if that happened. Then I wouldn't resist as much coming to this BS state. Also, I wonder how it affects transport through a state as well.

    Update---a note from Free Republic commentary:

    The way I read the ruling, it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home. That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.
    Are you a resident of NJ? Probably not. I don't see them entering into any reciprocity agreements with any other state.
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    Again, I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that this decision will make it much tougher for states like NJ to prosecute simple concealed carry violations, especially if the person already has a CCW from another state. But I could be mis-thinking here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbmania View Post
    Again, I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that this decision will make it much tougher for states like NJ to prosecute simple concealed carry violations, especially if the person already has a CCW from another state. But I could be mis-thinking here.
    I think you are mistaken. It would take an arrest and a conviction before this particular issue could go to court. So, are YOU up for the challenge? Please keep us posted on what happens. LOL
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    Haha! I'm not volunteering, if that's what you're asking!

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    Anyone gun owners who voted for Trump solely because of the Supreme Court have been vindicated.

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    Effectively rules that states with restrictive MAY ISSUE laws violate a personal right to self defense outside the home, specifically NY, but will apply to others.

    Roberts sided with the majority, for once. Thomas wrote the opinion, suggesting that restrictions to the 2A require the amendment process

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    [QUOTE=PickingPA;4638395]Effectively rules that states with restrictive MAY ISSUE laws violate a personal right to self defense outside the home, specifically NY, but will apply to others. Roberts sided with the majority, for once. Thomas wrote the opinion, suggesting that restrictions to the 2A require the amendment process[/QUO


    Yeah! It's done, every state in the union is now a "shall issue' state. I can't wait until people like Murphy, Newsome, and Hochel will have to sign their new carry laws into effect. You can bet on one thing though, there will be the most stringent requirements in these states to get the carry license. Look for stuff like many hours of training, "gun free' locations and any other impediment they can think of. It's a great win, but the fight will have to continue.

    Just heard Hochel on the radio commenting on it, and she says there all kinds of "ideas" they will take into consideration for New York's new law.
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    Now make my carry license have national reciprocity!

    Come on, do it...

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