We Win!!!

**mikelets456** · June 23rd, 2022, 11:27 AM

For questions on NJ, here's a link of their discussions regarding this on their forum:

https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/in...e/11/#comments

**Yoder** · June 23rd, 2022, 11:31 AM

Here's what happens with your "win". You carry in NYC. You get arrested and put in jail. After about 6 months to a year you get your court date where you use the court ruling as your defense. They let you out and it only costs you a couple hundred thousand dollars and 6 months in jail. Yeah!!!

**esh21167** · June 23rd, 2022, 11:37 AM

Stand by for rapid legislation in NYS to prohibit firearms on subways, trains, buses, museums, entertainment/sports venues, etc.

**kx90** · June 23rd, 2022, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Defender

I don't want the Feds involved in this any more than need be. I am perfectly good with the individual sovereign states handling this from here on out.

I mostly agree with that but the point I was making was that we shouldn’t want “national reciprocity”, we should want carry concealed carry and open carry without any licensing or permitting required. I think no level of government should be able to “permit” us to exercise any of our rights.

PickingPA · June 23rd, 2022, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by esh21167

Stand by for rapid legislation in NYS to prohibit firearms on subways, trains, buses, museums, entertainment/sports venues, etc.

Absolutely, in addition to mind blowing training and storage requirements etc.

It’s still a step in the right direction

PickingPA · June 23rd, 2022, 11:49 AM

They used the 14th amendment to codify the 2nd “outside the home”

**Jhaydeno** · June 23rd, 2022, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Yoder

Here's what happens with your "win". You carry in NYC. You get arrested and put in jail. After about 6 months to a year you get your court date where you use the court ruling as your defense. They let you out and it only costs you a couple hundred thousand dollars and 6 months in jail. Yeah!!!

PA LTCF folks needs to pave the way to overcome this. Under article 9, section 1, the *full faith and credit clause*, states must abide other court orders. It*s what the left pulled to get gay marriage national, and it can work for us. Considering in our commonwealth the sheriff is considered an *officer of the court*. If he makes the decision to issue an LTCF, it could be argued that was a court*s decision, thus it must stand in other states under the 9th amendment.

**esh21167** · June 23rd, 2022, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by PickingPA

Absolutely, in addition to mind blowing training and storage requirements etc.

It*s still a step in the right direction

From CNN: 'The city will review its approach to defining *sensitive locations* where carrying a gun is banned, as well as the application process, Adams wrote.' That's NYC Mayor Eric Adams.

**tlnzz1** · June 23rd, 2022, 12:10 PM

Imagine that. The SC overruled NY's gun control laws that have been in effective since about 1911 . And some say the SC is slow on some things. (sarc)

PickingPA · June 23rd, 2022, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jhaydeno

PA LTCF folks needs to pave the way to overcome this. Under article 9, section 1, the *full faith and credit clause*, states must abide other court orders. It*s what the left pulled to get gay marriage national, and it can work for us. Considering in our commonwealth the sheriff is considered an *officer of the court*. If he makes the decision to issue an LTCF, it could be argued that was a court*s decision, thus it must stand in other states under the 9th amendment.

Other than celebrating the ruling, this has no bearing on residents of PA or any other shall issue state