Senate Gun Deal announced

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A bipartisan group of senators announced a deal on gun control legislation Sunday in the wake of recent mass shootings — though the compromise excludes President Joe Biden’s “assault weapons” ban and a raised minimum age for rifle purchases.

The deal includes Republican priorities such as expanded mental health services and school safety. It nods to Democratic priorities by adding expanded background checks for those under the age of 21, who will now have juvenile records screened before gun purchases.

A press released from the bipartisan group outlines the contours of the proposed legislation (original emphasis) :

BIPARTISAN GROUP OF SENATORS ANNOUNCE AGREEMENT

WASHINGTON–U.S. Senators Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Cory Booker (D- N.J.), Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Bill Cassidy (R-La.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Chris Coons (D-Del.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), Angus King (I-Maine), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) issued the following statement:

“Today, we are announcing a commonsense, bipartisan proposal to protect America’s children, keep our schools safe, and reduce the threat of violence across our country. Families are scared, and it is our duty to come together and get something done that will help restore their sense of safety and security in their communities.

Our plan increases needed mental health resources, improves school safety and support for students, and helps ensure dangerous criminals and those who are adjudicated as mentally ill can’t purchase weapons.

Most importantly, our plan saves lives while also protecting the constitutional rights of law-abiding Americans. We look forward to earning broad, bipartisan support and passing our commonsense proposal into law.”The proposal includes:Support for State Crisis

Intervention Orders
● Provides resources to states and tribes to create and administer laws that help ensure deadly weapons are kept out of the hands of individuals whom a court has determined to be a significant danger to themselves or others, consistent with state and federal due process and constitutional protections.

Investment in Children and Family Mental Health Services
● National expansion of community behavioral health center model; major investments to increase access to mental health and suicide prevention programs; and other support services available in the community, including crisis and trauma intervention and recovery.

Protections for Victims of Domestic Violence
● Convicted domestic violence abusers and individuals subject to domestic violence restraining orders are included in NICS, including those who have or have had a continuing relationship of a romantic or intimate nature.

Funding for School-Based Mental Health and Supportive Services
● Invests in programs to expand mental health and supportive services in schools, including: early identification and intervention programs and school based mental health and wrap-around services.

Funding for School Safety Resources
● Invests in programs to help institute safety measures in and around primary and secondary schools, support school violence prevention efforts and provide training to school personnel and students.

Clarification of Definition of Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer
● Cracks down on criminals who illegally evade licensing requirements.

Telehealth Investments
● Invests in programs that increase access to mental and behavioral health services for youth and families in crisis via telehealth.

Under 21 Enhanced Review Process
● For buyers under 21 years of age, requires an investigative period to review juvenile and mental health records, including checks with state databases and local law enforcement.

Penalties for Straw Purchasing
● Cracks down on criminals who illegally straw purchase and traffic guns.

It is unclear whether the proposal can pass the 60-vote threshold required to defeat a legislative filibuster in the Senate — or whether the “progressive”-led Democratic caucus in the House would pass what they would see as a watered-down bill

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendm...mum-rifle-age/

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Intervention Orders
* Provides resources to states and tribes to create and administer laws that help ensure deadly weapons are kept out of the hands of individuals whom a court has determined to be a significant danger to themselves or others, consistent with state and federal due process and constitutional protections.


Why are they on the streets if they are that dangerous and been deemed so ?

Investment in Children and Family Mental Health Services
* National expansion of community behavioral health center model; major investments to increase access to mental health and suicide prevention programs; and other support services available in the community, including crisis and trauma intervention and recovery.
This is a mental health issue not a gun issue
Protections for Victims of Domestic Violence
* Convicted domestic violence abusers and individuals subject to domestic violence restraining orders are included in NICS, including those who have or have had a continuing relationship of a romantic or intimate nature.

Again pretty sure this disqualifies you already if you have been convicted

Funding for School-Based Mental Health and Supportive Services
* Invests in programs to expand mental health and supportive services in schools, including: early identification and intervention programs and school based mental health and wrap-around services.

You mean like paying attention and holding people accountable by taking actual action to identify that a kid who has several violent tendencies that are outwardly obvious and actually doing something about it?

Funding for School Safety Resources
* Invests in programs to help institute safety measures in and around primary and secondary schools, support school violence prevention efforts and provide training to school personnel and students.

I have no words .... this should already be done and teachers if willing should have the option of carrying, lets also get rid of the whole "gun free" zones considering all that does is tell would be assailants they are the only ones armed..

Clarification of Definition of Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer
* Cracks down on criminals who illegally evade licensing requirements.

So you mean actually properly enforce the current laws?

Telehealth Investments
* Invests in programs that increase access to mental and behavioral health services for youth and families in crisis via telehealth.

How exactly does this even apply to firearms ?
Under 21 Enhanced Review Process
* For buyers under 21 years of age, requires an investigative period to review juvenile and mental health records, including checks with state databases and local law enforcement.

It's already in place it's called a background check

Penalties for Straw Purchasing
* Cracks down on criminals who illegally straw purchase and traffic guns.
They already exist it's illegal already ..... maybe start enforcing the laws

It is unclear whether the proposal can pass the 60-vote threshold required to defeat a legislative filibuster in the Senate * or whether the *progressive*-led Democratic caucus in the House would pass what they would see as a watered-down bill

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Intervention Orders
● Provides resources to states and tribes to create and administer laws that help ensure deadly weapons are kept out of the hands of individuals whom a court has determined to be a significant danger to themselves or others, consistent with state and federal due process and constitutional protections.
Adjudicated prohibitive status already exists


Investment in Children and Family Mental Health Services
● National expansion of community behavioral health center model; major investments to increase access to mental health and suicide prevention programs; and other support services available in the community, including crisis and trauma intervention and recovery.
Part of what Republicans have been calling for

Protections for Victims of Domestic Violence
● Convicted domestic violence abusers and individuals subject to domestic violence restraining orders are included in NICS, including those who have or have had a continuing relationship of a romantic or intimate nature.
Again, similar to the first item, already in place. It’s up to District Attorneys to prosecute offenders

Funding for School-Based Mental Health and Supportive Services
● Invests in programs to expand mental health and supportive services in schools, including: early identification and intervention programs and school based mental health and wrap-around services.
similar to item #2

Funding for School Safety Resources
● Invests in programs to help institute safety measures in and around primary and secondary schools, support school violence prevention efforts and provide training to school personnel and students.
The door is open for armed school personnel…MUST get rid of “gun free zones”

Clarification of Definition of Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer
● Cracks down on criminals who illegally evade licensing requirements.
So….enforcement of existing laws

Telehealth Investments
● Invests in programs that increase access to mental and behavioral health services for youth and families in crisis via telehealth.
yup, better to phone it in. This must be COVID’s fault, or maybe Putin, or both

Under 21 Enhanced Review Process
● For buyers under 21 years of age, requires an investigative period to review juvenile and mental health records, including checks with state databases and local law enforcement.
This will vary from state to state due to varying laws pertaining to juvenile records

Penalties for Straw Purchasing
● Cracks down on criminals who illegally straw purchase and traffic guns.
Hey good idea…enforce existing laws

I’m guessing there’s some hidden stuff that will be buried in the actual legislative text. If not, this is a pretty good “compromise” for the Republicans. There’s nothing restrictive on the surface. The devil surely rests in the details

[father-of-five]

I find it hard to believe that Democrats like Booker would support this and not demand more, unless there is some sneaky underhanded plan to get around the filibuster.

[PickingPA]

Lol, yeah…what he said (note to self, changing text color makes it easier to read responses rather than italics)

[EFK]

The D(umbass)'s know this is all they can hope for in an election year that is increasingly looking quite shitty for them. Now they can pretend they did something and then continue to bitch about how "but more is needed." Meanwhile on the other side of the clubhouse, the R(etard)'s can pretend they "stood strong" and act like they really give a shit what we think. Then they can all go drink together and talk about how badly we smell and how ignorant we are.

[eagleclaw]

This is a joke. The Democrats want a semi auto and magazine ban. They will not be happy with this bill. They may pass it but they will be back very shortly with their gun banning efforts.

[philadelphia patriot]

Vote them out.

[STBear]

A lot of this is already law. Does it make that law a super law now. Too many RINOs.

[steve_010]

It doesn't matter what laws are on the books when the Feds and DA's purposefully turn a blind eye to actual criminals and go after peaceful parents are school board meetings.