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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeRabbit View Post
    Yeah, except I believe it would be, ummmm, kinda illegal.

    Maybe the following would be of some slight comfort to you, OP. And it's from a liberal rag, no less. I don't have children (that I know of LOL), but I'd be more worried about them being a traffic accident fatality than a victim of one of these shootings, as awful as they are.

    Don't let the mass shooters win

    "But the risk of being killed in a mass shooting is also smaller than or similar to your risk of being struck by lightning. Definitions of 'mass shooting' differ, but between 85 and 373 people died in such incidents in 2018. Lightning deaths are extremely rare (20 in 2018), but there are about 400 lightning injuries a year."

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...to-do-response
    It would not, assuming you have a LTCF. Even DA’s in liberal areas have…declined…to even consider charges for weapons on school grounds if the person had a LTCF. I can not say I am happy about the political makeup of the State Courts, but they do a fairly solid job of reading the state law/constitution, especially when you consider how awful other states are who just ignore their own constitutions and follow whatever the fed says.

    Might violate district policy…but again, that policy would violate state law and it might not go well for the district in the lawsuit.
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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    $125,000/year times 130,000 schools equals 16,250,000,000 (16.25 trillion per year). Our govt pisses away money daily but do you want to leave that yearly debt behind to the 99.99999% of the kids that survive to pay? With interest.
    trillion?

    How to write 16,250,000,000 number in English words or Spelling?
    sixteen billion, two hundred fifty million


    Much less than was doled out for Covid pork belly crap. Have you followed what projects were done with that money by states, counties, cities? PA alone got 10 billion. That's 10,000,000,000. The City of Erie got 76 million!
    There are 16 public schools in Erie. So that would be 2 million per year, or 38 years worth of protection. But no, the money is being used for community gardens, grants to private developers, and other assorted crap. Republicans need not apply.

    Buffalo, NY got 350 million. That's just the city, not the whole county.

    The total was 1.6 Trillion. That's 1,600,000,000,000.
    Last edited by SevenMilePete; June 11th, 2022 at 12:12 AM.

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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    trillion?

    How to write 16,250,000,000 number in English words or Spelling?
    sixteen billion, two hundred fifty million


    Much less than was doled out for Covid pork belly crap. Have you followed what projects were done with that money by states, counties, cities? PA alone got 10 billion. That's 10,000,000,000. The City of Erie got 76 million!
    There are 16 public schools in Erie. So that would be 2 million per year, or 38 years worth of protection. But no, the money is being used for community gardens, grants to private developers, and other assorted crap. Republicans need not apply.

    Buffalo, NY got 350 million. That's just the city, not the whole county.

    The total was 1.6 Trillion. That's 1,600,000,000,000.
    As you clarified, resource officers and other protections could certainly be done. The money is there. But we all know that isn't what the left wants 'solved.'

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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Run for school board with some like minded people.
    Gain a majority.
    Hire a like minded administration.
    Tell the DoE to pound sand.
    It*s why we have 507 districts in the state: to maintain local control.
    Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    $125,000/year times 130,000 schools equals 16,250,000,000 (16.25 trillion per year). Our govt pisses away money daily but do you want to leave that yearly debt behind to the 99.99999% of the kids that survive to pay? With interest.
    I get where you’re going but it’s 16 Billion per year. Way less than we already gave Ukraine to kill Russians and enrich our defense contractors.

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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

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    A Call To Arms: Teachers In Conservative States Are Volunteering To Carry Guns


    Crosses and flowers laid out in the public square of the grief-stricken town Uvalde, where a teen gunman killed 19 students and two teachers, are an all-too-familiar scene igniting a call to arms for teachers in Texas and beyond.


    The Republican-led Texas legislature is addressing the twin issues of school safety and mass violence following the May 24 Uvalde, Texas, school shooting. Committees of lawmakers are reviewing past legislative efforts, such as the Guardian and Marshal programs that allow teachers to carry firearms in the hopes of hardening schools as targets. School officials and firearm trainers in the Lone Star State say interest has risen sharply since the recent shooting.

    Jeff Sellers owns Schools on Target, a company in Marble Falls, Texas, that trains teachers to carry firearms in schools. Since the school shooting, Sellers told The Epoch Times that he has added nine additional classes—double the amount customarily held—for June through August.

    “I’ve gotten an insane amount of calls,” Sellers said. “It hasn’t stopped. Ninety percent is because of Uvalde.”

    Bryan Proctor, owner of Go Strapped Firearms Training in Arlington, Texas, told The Epoch Times much the same thing—that training requests for the Guardian program have skyrocketed.

    “We’ve had about a 100 percent increase,” Proctor said. “It’s been pretty dramatic. I’ve sent out over 20 proposals in the past week.”

    Proctor said teachers want to protect their students and themselves, despite what people may be hearing form the select voices in legacy media.

    “What you’re seeing is a vocal minority,” Proctor said. Arming teachers isn’t about giving them something else to be responsible for—but instead giving them a tool as a last defense.

    Elsewhere, state legislatures are investigating how to make schools safer and arm teachers.

    Louisiana is currently looking at legislation similar to Texas, allowing teachers to carry guns in schools after receiving specialized training. Ohio’s latest bill aims to be less restrictive than the current law, mandating 700 hours of police training and board approval before allowing teachers to be armed.

    Republican governors Bill Lee of Tennessee and Ron DeSantis of Florida took action on school security this week. Lee signed an executive order June 6 to ensure working safety protocols at schools, and to evaluate training for active shooter scenarios. DeSantis signed a school safety bill into law on June 7 that focused on crisis intervention and training, and mental health awareness.

    Meanwhile, teacher unions have nixed the idea and portrayed arming teachers as unpopular with educators. A 2018 Gallup poll found that 73 percent of teachers oppose the idea.

    Meanwhile, policies to arm teachers in some form has widespread participation throughout the country amid the horror of gunmen targeting schools for mass shootings. The RAND Corporation reported in 2020 that 28 states permit armed teachers under some circumstances, while states such as Texas and Florida have passed laws encouraging the practice.

    In North Florida, one principal at a private Christian school said he would like to see the program expanded to include private schools. The principal, who didn’t wish to be identified, said he added chain-link fencing around his school’s 40-acre perimeter and allowed just one-way traffic onto the campus, except during drop-off and pick-up times.

    Now, cameras monitor doors into buildings, and access is controlled remotely or with special key fobs. Classrooms stay locked throughout the day. But it’s not enough anymore, he said.

    He asked for training under Florida’s school guardian program to protect his school’s 340 students, ranging from toddlers to high school seniors. He was denied because the program doesn’t extend to private schools.

    Currently, it is open to employees of public schools or charter schools who volunteer to serve as guardians and their official job duties. To qualify, they must pass psychological and drug screenings, and complete a 144-hour training course.

    Sheriff’s offices in 45 of Florida’s 67 counties participate and receive funding to cover screening and training costs. And guardians receive a one-time bonus of $500 for serving in the program. Schools in districts can arrange to send employees for certification.

    So the principal is now training on his own to become a licensed, armed security guard.

    “It’s the only option,” he said. “Even before this last school shooting, I said, ‘I’ve got to go get this taken care of.’ So we’re doing it the right way.”

    About a decade ago, Texas lawmakers created the school Marshal program, as a way for educators to carry weapons inside schools, and later initiated the Guardian program.

    Under the Marshal program, school employees can carry a handgun on school premises after 80 hours of training. However, school marshals are restricted from carrying concealed firearms if they are regularly in contact with students. Instead, the marshal can store a gun in a safe at the school. There are 62 school districts participating in this plan, according to the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement.

    Gretchen Grigsby, director of government relations with the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement, told The Epoch Times that 30 new students and nine new school districts have signed up for the Marshal program since the Uvalde shooting.

    The Guardian program authorizes school boards to arm employees under the federal Gun-Free School Zones Act and the Texas Penal Code. After completing 16 hours of training, those employees may carry a concealed firearm in the presence of students. According to the Texas Association of School Boards, 389 districts reported using the Guardian plan as of May.

    While Democrats are calling for gun control, people like Sellers reiterate that the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Sellers told The Epoch Times that the first few minutes of an active shooter situation are critical, and arming teachers could save lives.

    “In active shooting incidents, time is everything,” Sellers said. “No gun control law is going to stop evil from conducting evil acts.”

    Madalyn Maresh is an assistant superintendent at the Edna Independent School District, a rural 3A district northeast of Victoria, Texas. She told The Epoch Times that her district reopened the application process for the Guardian program at her school in response to the Uvalde shooting.

    “The day I reopened it, I got two applications immediately,” she said. In the three years since the program has been operational, she gets between 3 to 10 volunteers per year. Without guns for protection, teachers are forced to use their own bodies to shield students from an active shooter, she said.

    “You’ve got to find what fits your community. We got zero push back on it—our community embraces it,” Maresh said.

    Kyle Collier, police chief for City View ISD in Wichita Falls, Texas, said an additional four or five teachers volunteered after the Uvalde shooting.

    Nanette Holt contributed to this report.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ing-carry-guns
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