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  1. #11
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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Vote out all the Communists
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceballs View Post
    I have all the relevant skillsets to do what you want to do. I have experience doing them.

    I know a LARGE group of people with these skillsets who would volunteer to sit in schools at no charge and guarentee their safety.

    No schools want this. They don't want you there. Some schools hate the idea of defensive guns. Some schools just see you as a liability for legal reasons. Some just have their heads up their asses.

    Ultimately most government schools don't want civilians protecting them. They don't want non government volunteers. They hate the idea of not being in control of something. Rhey would rather have fake control by thinking locked doors stop attackers than have an acrual working solution that they don't control.
    This!

    We need more turf fields and COVID relief money to start GSA/LGBTQIA clubs, etc. But having armed protection? Out of the question.

    Unless you and a group quietly keep watch 1001 yards away from a school building. But you will be noticed and likely arrested or red flagged as threats, not safety.

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Get a job as a janitor and pack heat.
    Not the worst idea I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david82 View Post
    I appreciate the previous feedback, however I think my point wasn't clear. I'm not looking to protect *my* kids, I'm looking to protect *our* kids. I'm not in the position (location-wise or financially) to send my children to private schools. Even if I were, that wouldn't be for 2+ more years for my oldest.

    I'm looking for advice from either LEO or SRO or equivalent personnel on what the realistic abilities would be for someone of my age with no previous LE background, to get trained and work/volunteer at *any* school, in any capacity. I want to do my part as a parent and citizen to protect our children. I am not looking for politically-biased "don't send you kids to public school" answers. I'm looking for how I can help be a part of a solution.
    You have none of the background or skill set to work armed in a school and you're pretty much aged out of getting them. Forget about any direct action of being armed at a school anywhere in Pa.
    The previous advice is sound, keep your children out of public school. Home schooling is an excellent option. Other than that, vote in your local school board election and/or run for office on the school board.
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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by david82 View Post
    Hi all,

    I haven't been active on here in a while; two kids, blah blah blah.

    This last school shooting really affected me. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. And what I can do to protect our children.

    I am a private citizen. I have no military or law enforcement background. I have a clean record. I'm also almost 40.

    What can I do to help protect our kids? I am willing and able to pay for any training needed. I can pass any physical or psych test. I am willing and able to take a significant pay cut (I'm self employed as a software developer), or work part time, or work for free. Ideally I would like to be part of full time security for any of my surrounding schools (Clearfield county).

    I just want to go to sleep, knowing I've done all I can to help.

    What are my options? With a 3yr old and a 5mo old I can't travel too far for too long (in DuBois pa), but I need to figure out how to help.
    Unfortunately nothing directly, you aged out of most police jobs i guess?(patrooper.com says before 40). Heres the deal, noone who is not police will ever be allowed to have a rifle with rifle grade body armor escort their kids to and from school, that's what is required. The first step is location, which clearfield seems pretty safe. Next is teaching you children avoidance and sheltering drills. Thats all i got sorry.

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    As was already mentioned solutions for the safeguarding of children in government schools while teacher unions run the schools is pretty much out the question. Save your money for a private school while you can so your children will get an education or homeschool. At this point there is nothing you can do to protect children in government run schools. They have made it this way for a reason as we've all just witnessed.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Quote Originally Posted by PocketProtector View Post
    Vote out all the Communists
    We tried that in upper darby. Two weeks later, they found more votes and got their seats back.
    See how that works?
    6million dollars missing, the mayor has over 40 bank accounts, and all of a sudden, the money shows up.

    Violence is the only solution.
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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Get a job as a janitor and pack heat.
    Really is a pretty good idea...

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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by david82 View Post
    I appreciate the previous feedback, however I think my point wasn't clear. I'm not looking to protect *my* kids, I'm looking to protect *our* kids. I'm not in the position (location-wise or financially) to send my children to private schools. Even if I were, that wouldn't be for 2+ more years for my oldest.

    I'm looking for advice from either LEO or SRO or equivalent personnel on what the realistic abilities would be for someone of my age with no previous LE background, to get trained and work/volunteer at *any* school, in any capacity. I want to do my part as a parent and citizen to protect our children. I am not looking for politically-biased "don't send you kids to public school" answers. I'm looking for how I can help be a part of a solution.
    Yeah. The "take your kids out of public school" suggestions aren't based in reality for most folks, due to either location, expense, or both.

    Things that you can do:

    Run for school board. You affect the most change from within. I would have loved to been on school board. Unfortunately, being employed by the fed.gov, I'm unable to run in an election. If you can't get elected, at least attend the meetings.

    But, more importantly, help to address the underlying causes. Volunteer to be a scout leader, a coach, or even a "Big" with Big Brothers/Big Sisters. Perhaps the kid whose life you influenced positively might have taken a wrong turn without you.

    The shitheel that shot up Uvalde was the product of a whole lot of people just not giving a shit. If a few more of us volunteered a few hours a week to help out kids with shit families, perhaps there wouldn't be so many shit families in the next generation.
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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Get a job as a janitor and pack heat.
    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    Really is a pretty good idea...
    Yeah, except I believe it would be, ummmm, kinda illegal.

    Maybe the following would be of some slight comfort to you, OP. And it's from a liberal rag, no less. I don't have children (that I know of LOL), but I'd be more worried about them being a traffic accident fatality than a victim of one of these shootings, as awful as they are.

    Don't let the mass shooters win

    "But the risk of being killed in a mass shooting is also smaller than or similar to your risk of being struck by lightning. Definitions of 'mass shooting' differ, but between 85 and 373 people died in such incidents in 2018. Lightning deaths are extremely rare (20 in 2018), but there are about 400 lightning injuries a year."

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...to-do-response

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    Default Re: How can I help protect our schools?

    I understand the sentiment of running for the board and contributing to the community, but those are very long term plans to make real change/progress.

    Being a board president or even a superintendent won't mean jack if your kid is in an unsecured and unprotected location when a whacko goes off the deep end.

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