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    According to PennLive the PA House of Representatives already are active on trying to ban guns. On Wednesday they already voted on a assault weapons ban . It failed 111-87. Their also trying to force other anti 2nd amendment bills through.

    Push to discuss gun legislation blocked in Pa. House following latest school shooting

    As the nation marks another mass shooting, the likelihood of significant action on firearms regulation in the Pennsylvania Legislature appears to remain low.

    Democrats in the Pa. House on Wednesday tried to force gun legislation out of the Republican-controlled Judiciary Committee, where several bills languished for years without official discussion or debate, but a motion to suspend procedural rules to do so was quickly defeated along near-perfect partisan lines.

    “We are abdicating our responsibly and we watched it happen again today,” Rep. Emily Kinkead (D-Allegheny) said following the session, with multiple other Democrats echoing frustration that Republican leadership has precluded any dialogue or negotiation by keeping bills stuck in committee.
    In making the motion to allow the discharge from committee, Rep. Danielle Friel Otten (D-Chester) said legislators “have the power and moral obligation” to act before another mass shooting like Tuesday’s killing of 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.
    Urging his caucus to vote against the rules suspension, House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff (R-Centre) said the legislation in question needs to be “vetted through the committee process.”

    But the chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Rob Kauffman (R-Franklin), has not scheduled any of the legislation in question for discussion or vote, leaving the bills bottlenecked in committee without any discourse on what policies GOP legislators might or might not find acceptable.
    By Democrats’ count, there are 16 pieces of gun-related legislation currently being blockaded, including the four bills for which Democratic lawmakers filed discharge petitions on Wednesday.

    At the end of the House session, Otten moved to suspend the rules in order to take up one of the bills – an assault weapons ban similar to the 1994 federal law – but was defeated 111-to-87, after which voting stopped for the day.

    “I don’t know that much has changed” since the last push on gun legislation in 2019, Rep. Todd Stephens (R-Montgomery) said in an interview before Wednesday’s floor action. Shortly thereafter, Stephens was the only Republican to vote in favor of Friel Otten’s motion.
    Three years ago, Stephens led the effort to gain bipartisan traction for a consensus package of gun bills, including Stephens’ own legislation to create “extreme risk protection orders.” Often called “red flag” laws, this would allow a court to temporarily confiscate a person’s firearms under an emergency adjudication if the person is deemed to be a threat.

    Kauffman explicitly refused to take up the bill during the 2019 push, telling reporters that red flag legislation would never be discussed as long as he controlled the judiciary committee. Stephens has re-filed his red flag bill in the current legislative session.
    “I’m the eternal optimist,” Stephens said. “But I’ve said that after each tragedy that unfolded.”
    Stephens’ red flag bill was one of the four that Democrats on Wednesday attempted to force to the floor, along with the assault weapons ban and two other bills: a safe storage bill requiring locks or locked containers for firearms, as well as a bill that would expand the powers of municipal governments to institute gun control – something that Republican legislators have tried to pre-empt cities such as Philadelphia from doing.
    Stephens has pointed to the success of red flag laws in a number of other states, including conservative ones such as Indiana, that have provided a significant amount of data showing the measure was successful in reducing gun violence, especially suicides.
    “This is an evidence-based, data-driven solution,” he said. “It’s a tool that law enforcement and families in Pennsylvania don’t have, and they should.”
    Stephens acknowledged the gap between moderate, suburban Republicans such as himself and his more conservative, rural colleagues whose constituents are perceived as being less amendable to firearms regulation.
    “What needs to happen is people in rural Pennsylvania need to urge their legislators to consider it,” Stephens said. “I really believe it goes back to the people of Pennsylvania. Citizen engagement will cause legislators to act.”
    On Wednesday, Republican leadership cast the problem as one of personal responsibility.

    “I wish there was a simple solution to this,” Benninghoff said. “I wish there was a simple solution to a lot of the violence that we see that goes on across our country and our state. But it does start with each of us as individuals and the choices that we make toward our fellow man.”
    Benninghoff pointed to the Legislature’s successful passage of school security funding and said, “We will continue to keep those kinds of priorities.”
    Democrats have strongly rejected the idea that the issue is so opaque given the sheer volume of guns in the United States.
    In studies of gun violence trends, said Rep. Joe Webster (D-Montgomery), “the only variable in all that statistical analysis that correlates to the number of deaths in the United States by guns is the number of guns.”

    The assault weapons ban that was blocked Wednesday would prohibit the manufacture and trade of semi-automatic firearms that can accept high-capacity magazines and have certain military-type features; such bans are intended to include the AR-15 type rifles believed to have been used by the Ulvalde shooter.

    Democrats characterized the measure as broadly popular; roughly six in 10 Americans support such a measure, according to a Gallup analysis of recent polling.
    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/0...-shooting.html

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    There is no Jerk like a "Knee Jerk". Let the games begin...

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    They are setting up the pro gun republicans. I can see the capaign adds. joe shit voted against protecting our children.

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    The left wants war, they*ve been at war, best we understand that
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    Shooter was 18 for a couple of days. Make 'em wait till they're 21. That'll stop any further mass shootings. Shooter bought two ARs over two days. Make 'em wait a month for the second one. That'll stop any further mass shootings.

    Feel better?

    It's just common sense. Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile killed Ms. Kopekne. Now there are no more Oldsmobiles being made and sold. No more drownings in Oldsmobiles. See?
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    Change no laws or make no new laws. Start protecting the schools and stop making leftist arguments viable by arguing with them. Defeat the leftists and protect the schools and enforce the laws we have on the books. Right now we have a non enforcement policy going in major cities putting everyone at risk. Crime is spiraling out of control due to leftist policies. Every weekend in major cities around the country as many people die from black mass shootings and barely a word is mentioned. Chicago has in the last five years had as many or more killed as the Iraq war. Oh yeah, stop feeding children psychotropic drugs. Those drugs do as much damage as cross sex hormones that can't be reversed. The adults have a lot of work ahead to eliminate leftism and it's destructive control over other humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Shooter was 18 for a couple of days. Make 'em wait till they're 21.
    No.

    Then make them wait until they're 21 to vote. And join the military and die for our country. If they're not responsible enough at 18 to buy a gun, they aren't responsible enough to vote or join the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    According to PennLive the PA House of Representatives already are active on trying to ban guns. On Wednesday they already voted on a assault weapons ban . It failed 111-87. Their also trying to force other anti 2nd amendment bills through.


    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/0...-shooting.html
    How did they get it out of committee?


    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    How did they get it out of committee?
    Great question! What spineless, oathbreaking republicans went along with this to get it to the floor? There must have been some, right?

    Name and shame.
    I am not a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    How did they get it out of committee?
    It didn’t.

    There was a motion for a floor vote to suspend the rules that require a bill to pass out of committee. That floor vote failed 111-87

    Kauffman is holding strong and refusing to even hold debate in the Judiciary Committee. He is being bombarded with vile and disgusting calls and e-mails, once again.

    He needs to hear support from the side he has consistently defended….US

    https://www.repkauffman.com/contact

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