Tracking Hunting Dogs onto Private Property

[free]

I suppose that if someone wanted to make an issue of it, the land owner could invite the deer slayer to walk onto the land, and drag the deer off his land to some public location for further processing.

[sota]

Interesting:

So the layman interpretation, at least by me, is:
he who shoots it now owns it
if it dies in a location different from where it's shot, the now owner has claim to retrieve it.
if said location is now on private property, and the property owner refuses access with threat or enforcement of trespass, he's depriving the owner of his property.
such denial is tantamount to theft.

I can see both sides of the argument, which is why there just needs to be respectful adults involved for it to clear up neatly.

[STBear]

I would caveat it with, is it a repeated offense.

Not that I know of.

[tl_3237]

So the layman interpretation, at least by me, is:
he who shoots it now owns it
if it dies in a location different from where it's shot, the now owner has claim to retrieve it.
if said location is now on private property, and the property owner refuses access with threat or enforcement of trespass, he's depriving the owner of his property.
such denial is tantamount to theft.

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That's the way I see it.

[free]

Well, you didn't pay anything for the deer. Which is lying unbutchered in my yard. What are your actual damages?

Stay the hell out of my yard, and keep your dog out of my yard too.

[buckengr]

Well, you didn't pay anything for the deer. Which is lying unbutchered in my yard. What are your actual damages?

Stay the hell out of my yard, and keep your dog out of my yard too.

I agree. No one should have the right to enter your private property without your permission if it is posted.

Generally, I would probably accommodate a request for a hunter to access my land to retrieve a downed deer for several reasons: 1) I don't want a dead deer rotting on my property and 2) I am a reasonable person and would prefer to be neighborly.

In this case, I would expect to be asked for permission, at a minimum, and have the decision respected. I think it is polite for a hunter in this situation to offer some form of compensation (even though I would likely turn it down). It should be legal for a land owner to refuse access if an agreement can't be reached or if conditions aren't adhered to.

No one should be able to demand access to your private property to search for or retrieve a game animal without your permission.

This goes doubly for the game warden. They have entirely too much power to enter and search properties, vehicles, etc., especially if you aren't even a hunter!

Keep your dogs, dead animals, deer stands, vehicles, drones, and yourself off my property unless I grant you explicit permission.

[free]

I agree. No one should have the right to enter your private property without your permission if it is posted.

I try to look at it from the perspective of the land owner.

How many times per year does he have to put up with someone either just trespassing on his land, straight up? And how many times does he have to deal with people "asking permission" for whatever? And how many times does he find evidence people have been on his property?

It's no wonder a land owner will just become inclined to tell EVERYBODY to just kiss off and go away.

[streaker69]

I try to look at it from the perspective of the land owner.

How many times per year does he have to put up with someone either just trespassing on his land, straight up? And how many times does he have to deal with people "asking permission" for whatever? And how many times does he find evidence people have been on his property?

It's no wonder a land owner will just become inclined to tell EVERYBODY to just kiss off and go away.

Then it also becomes an ever increasing intrusion. First it starts off with gut piles everywhere. Then they want to drive their vehicle to the carcass because their fat ass can't drag it out on their own. Are all hunters slobs? Nope, but there are slob hunters.

[free]

Then it also becomes an ever increasing intrusion. First it starts off with gut piles everywhere. Then they want to drive their vehicle to the carcass because their fat ass can't drag it out on their own. Are all hunters slobs? Nope, but there are slob hunters.

Yep. It may seem like "no big deal" to any particular hunter to "just let me get my deer", but the land owner is probably dealing with that shit multiple times/season.

Hunters should either:

• Become a better shot, so they can drop the deer where it stands when they shoot it
• Get closer to the deer before shooting it, to achieve the same effect
• Use a bigger gun to achieve the same effect
• Get their own property to hunt on
• Pay to hunt on someone else's property

I don't have anything against hunters and hunting - but they need not feel so entitled. They definitely shouldn't be leaving one speck of deer there if yoU DO allow them to get it.

[cephas]

Then it also becomes an ever increasing intrusion. First it starts off with gut piles everywhere. Then they want to drive their vehicle to the carcass because their fat ass can't drag it out on their own. Are all hunters slobs? Nope, but there are slob hunters.

Damn, I was gonna post pretty much the same thing, but you beat me to it and said it a whole lot better.
Been there done that with this situation.
Rarely refused anyone that asked to hunt or come on, but have thrown quite a few off that haven't.
Need to hear how the new laws with the purple paint markings are working out.