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    Default HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA

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    HOUSE BILL
    No. 291 Session of 2007


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    INTRODUCED BY YOUNGBLOOD, CRUZ, THOMAS, CURRY, WATERS, BISHOP,
    PARKER AND JOSEPHS, FEBRUARY 7, 2007


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    REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY, FEBRUARY 7, 2007


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    AN ACT

    1 Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania
    2 Consolidated Statutes, providing a safety performance
    3 standard for the manufacture of handguns, for the forfeiture
    4 of certain handguns and for enforcement relating to a safety
    5 standard for handguns; imposing penalties; and conferring
    6 powers and imposing duties on the Pennsylvania State Police.

    7 The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
    8 hereby enacts as follows:
    9 Section 1. Chapter 61 of Title 18 of the Pennsylvania
    10 Consolidated Statutes is amended by adding a subchapter to read:
    11 SUBCHAPTER D
    12 HANDGUN SAFETY STANDARDS

    I suggest you go to
    http://www.legis.state.pa.us
    and read this one for yourselves. This proposed law makes only "personalized handguns" legal for sale or ownership in PA and outlaws the possession of all other handguns within 4 years after the law is adopted.

    This is your legislature in action! Banning all handguns except for those that don't exist!

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    Thumbs down Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    This stands the proverbial snowball's chance in hell of passing. Maryland, the bastion of stupid handgun laws, couldn't even pass this law, there is no way that it will pass here. To that end I can guarantee that I will be calling my representative.
    Bill USAF 1976 - 1986, NRA Endowment, USCCA

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    Default Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by billamj View Post
    This stands the proverbial snowball's chance in hell of passing. Maryland, the bastion of stupid handgun laws, couldn't even pass this law, there is no way that it will pass here. To that end I can guarantee that I will be calling my representative.
    Bill,
    Have you ever received a response from Rep. Kessler? I've emailed him in the past and never received a response from either him or his staff. Guess I have to step it up.
    "Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
    -Charlton Heston

    "[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
    -James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.

    "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." [sic]
    -John Quincy Adams

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
    -Thomas Jefferson

    Μολών λαβέ!
    -King Leonidas

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    Default Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChamberedRound View Post
    Bill,
    Have you ever received a response from Rep. Kessler? I've emailed him in the past and never received a response from either him or his staff. Guess I have to step it up.
    I'm not sure that the reply system for his e-mails is working properly. Of course in order to make sure that he got my message this time I called the office just now. I reminded them that he promised me in a personal conversation that he would be pro 2A and pro Article 1, Section 21 and that bills such as HB30 and HB291 were definitely attacks on our rights. Just in case you need his number it is (610) 987-0980. The more of us that pressure him, the less choice he has in his vote.
    Bill USAF 1976 - 1986, NRA Endowment, USCCA

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    Default Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    There that bill is!

    I thought it was combined with the gunlocks one. These politicians confused the hell out of me.

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    Angry Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    Don't worry they are conservative democrats

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    Default Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    Thats retarded what the hell are personal handguns?

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    Default Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    Hi, Brick -

    Thread already posted - House Bill 291 - provisions for forfeiture/"personalized" handguns. The full text of the bill is posted there.

    Everyone needs to be vigilant on this one, as well as the other liberty-restricting bills that have been introduced by the antis' in Harrisburg.

    Subscribe to the daily announcement from the State Legislature and see what bills have been introduced and acted upon. You can sign up on the state website. I posted the link in another thread but have to book out the door to a match or I'd put it here again.

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    Default Re: HB 30 Bad? This is Worse!

    Personalized handguns are the so-called "smart guns" that have some sort of biometric recognition system built into them so only the owner can use the gun. To date, as far as I know, they are still in the experimental stage. New Jersey passed a law a few years ago requiring requiring that all handguns in the state have that system within a period of time after the first model appears on the market.

    For those in the Pittsburgh area, the Judiciary Committee of the PA House of Reps is holding a public hearing on "Gun Violence" on March 28 between 9:30 and 11:30 A.M. at Carnegie-Mellon University. Contact Wm. Andring or John Ryan (Committee staffers) at 717-787-3525 for details.

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