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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksnack View Post
    This big concern that will likely impact everyone in this space is:

    • 80 lowers will now need to go though a FFL to purchase and will be serialized like a complete lower;
    • upper receivers may now require an FFL to purchase
    • erosion of or freedoms...again.
    The 80%'s being serialized is fucking stupid, but the bolded would truly be an outrage. Something that was legal for my entire life suddenly changed because some unelected bureaucrat decided it should be. We need to push back on this HARD.
    F*#K THE ATF

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Quote Originally Posted by KPShooting View Post
    The 80%'s being serialized is fucking stupid, but the bolded would truly be an outrage. Something that was legal for my entire life suddenly changed because some unelected bureaucrat decided it should be. We need to push back on this HARD.
    Yep, I'd say you're 4 for 4 on this one.

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Just saw a few youtube videos on this, and looked up the original article afterwards. It's coming from ABC, so I'm not taking it as the gospel, and they certainly could have misquoted the NSSF guy. Not trying to be chicken little, but, if quoted correctly, it would seem to indicate that the dogshooters now want slides/uppers as well as frames/lowers serialized, right?


    "Already, the proposed changes have been met with pushback from the firearms trade industry. Keane, from the NSSF, said in an interview with ABC News that the proposed definition overreaches ATF's statutory authority. Many of the new implementations, such as multiple or reprinted serial numbers on guns, a manufacturing overhaul and unclear implementation details, overstep the ATF's authority, he said."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/proposed-g...ry?id=83566055
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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Dear TFA,
    Does I haz to register my BUIS?
    Please advise.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    I'll draw a #2 on mine with some chalk.
    Any vote for a third party is a vote for a Democrat. You are the enemy.

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    AFAIK, "serial numbers" can consist entirely of letters- so, that opens up some good possibilities.

    I'm going with Yoder's idea, and will be voluntarily serializing all of my pre-68 guns with a "serial number" that represents my thoughts on the ATF.
    They even have minds but do not think. -Dov Fischer

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Dear TFA,
    Does I haz to register my BUIS?
    Please advise.
    Yes

    Iron sights are a key feature of the military-style assault guns that kill so many children every year

    Registration of iron sights will prevent criminals from having easy access to dangerous items

    and will allow our law enforcement partners to apprehend those who use them in crime

    Also, register your black powder guns, because they're quite readily converted to full auto

    This will result in criminals having one less way to turn common hunting rifles into dangerous weapons of war

    We're all in this together
    They even have minds but do not think. -Dov Fischer

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    I guess buying a section of aluminum tube at home depot will require a serial number at check out. LOL

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Flounder View Post
    I guess buying a section of aluminum tube at home depot will require a serial number at check out. LOL
    Every HD employee is going to get charged for selling suppressor parts.

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    Default Re: Proposed ATF 80% rules and kits

    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    Every HD employee is going to get charged for selling suppressor parts.
    With the 1-2 week form 4's, i think it'll kill a lot of form 1 suppressors, so they can focus on ar pistols.

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