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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    Are you suggesting there should be laws against theft?

    There should be a law.. I leave mine in the truck all the time.
    Some places you just cant carry them.

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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    I'm not metro enough to support the victim blaming thing. The reality is, if you leave shiny objects within easy reach, they often walk away.
    It's not that difficult to install a hardened box in your vehicle. As has been observed, maybe we should just make theft illegal...
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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Victim ology is an interesting subject/concept. It is probably fair to assign a portion of responsibility to a victim. What portion is the sticking point.

    I suppose it begins with "could the victim have been able to do something towards preventing the situation". Then it enters the area of if yes, should it be a requirement.

    Such exercises always do and always will mitigate the responsibility of the perpetrator. It is the same process that says gang-banger killings need to be addressed by shrinking the rights of the totally law-abiding masses.
    There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.

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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Victim ology is an interesting subject/concept. It is probably fair to assign a portion of responsibility to a victim. What portion is the sticking point.

    I suppose it begins with "could the victim have been able to do something towards preventing the situation". Then it enters the area of if yes, should it be a requirement.

    Such exercises always do and always will mitigate the responsibility of the perpetrator. It is the same process that says gang-banger killings need to be addressed by shrinking the rights of the totally law-abiding masses.
    Lemmee finish that thought for you...

    Both are WRONG. It's 100% on the criminals. Theft is wrong.
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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    While it may be wrong to steal, if you leave a box full of cash on the front seat of your car, you can't be seriously surprised if it is gone when you return.

    Wishing you had not left it there is a perfectly reasonable and expected response.

    So is someone else telling you that you shouldn't have left it there.

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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    While it may be wrong to steal, if you leave a box full of cash on the front seat of your car, you can't be seriously surprised if it is gone when you return.

    Wishing you had not left it there is a perfectly reasonable and expected response.

    So is someone else telling you that you shouldn't have left it there.
    Sometimes he's just right, ya know.
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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    'Crime is way up, so leave your personal protection at home, especially in places and times where your risk of being a victim is the highest.'

    I thought we paid taxes so that police would arrest criminals, prosecutors would prosecute them, and the convicted would be put someplace where they couldn't victimize the innocent for some period of time? When did that turn into 'you just keep paying high taxes but we're going to let the criminals routinely ransack parked cars in places we know they'll be doing so, so the burden is on you to just replace your car windows when they're broken by the thugs we won't prosecute'?

    I mostly don't care if our prisons "look like America", or if incarceration is good for them, or if their unlawful drug abuse contributed to their unlawful stealing and unlawful shoving people in front of trains. I want them removed from society so they don't hurt the straights any more. I want the priority to be the honest folks who go to work and pay their taxes and decline to steal stuff and never mug anyone, instead of the freaks who ignore the laws and are only ever really, really sorry Your Honor that they got caught again.

    It's been staggeringly stupid to listen to the oblivious Left whine for the last 20 years that our prison population was at record high levels, "ironically" at a time when violent crime was at record lows. How fucking stupid do they have to be not to understand that basic connection? And now they're letting them out, and violent crime is soaring, and they STILL don't get it.

    If you ever watched "Ghostbusters" and wondered what it would be like if obnoxious bureaucrats released all the supernatural monsters into the city, this is as close as you'll ever get.

    It's like saying "why are we all now steering around icebergs when ship sinkings are lower than ever?"

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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Hell yeah!!! gunlawyer for POTUS and Governor and Senator.
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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Quote Originally Posted by DK23 View Post
    That's what I was thinking. A lot of victim blaming going on. Do we also need to put steel bars on our house windows and doors?
    In Philthy, YUP. Seems the only way to keep thugs behind bars.

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    Default Re: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?" - G. Costanza

    Concealed (adjective) - kept secret; hidden.

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