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February 21st, 2022, 09:08 PM #11
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February 21st, 2022, 09:21 PM #12
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February 22nd, 2022, 12:31 PM #13
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Re: Reloading Components Scams
The funny thing is, all that supposed training, and the extra 20bucks, it all comes in the mail
like a regular package. It gets thrown around the ups truck just
Its all about the money IMO. What will be next on the list?
1. Primers and powder in the same box are incompatible. (and some major suppliers still do it).
2. The markings and spec packaging with spec inner packaging and cushioning is meant to absorb "the rigors of transportation". They also let EVERYONE know the contents so they don't ship it on a long holiday weekend in the middle of summer where it could get way too hot in a closed up trailer.
3. Shipping Toxics or Inhalation hazards in the SAME truck or trailer as your Omaha Steak order or foodstuffs is ALSO against FDA laws. Those markings tell the logistics people what can go on a truck and what can't. (Because people were poisoned by toxics that were present in the same shipping trailer/container as food).
4. Aerosol cans are regulated because they simply can explode in transit. Hot trailers sitting on tarmacs and depot lots for days in the sun. Also in an aircraft, once that plane gets to a certain altitude, the barometric pressure exerted against that can is almost non-existent and the can will burst. Not a real good outcome for the passengers and crew at 20,000 feet).
5. Certain flammable solids are not allowed to transport through tunnels. (Got to mark the box so they know). In an accident, an unclassified package or shipment can shutdown major highways for months.
6. Speaking of accidents, first responders MUST know what is on a truck in the event of an accident or fire. That is conveyed by the Hazardous Materials paperwork the driver, (who must have their hazmat endorsement training), must have in his cab and ready to take with him in an accident. If the package isn't marked, it also has no paperwork and therefore, no first responders know what the hell is in that truck or trailer. (Think volunteer fire departments and EMT's and police to name a few).
7. If an accident occurs and the lawyers descend, all involved "could" face defending themselves in court. That includes the carrier, the driver, the loaders, the seller and the buyer. (Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law).
There are many more reasons for classifying and shipping hazmat by the letter of the law. It saves hundreds of lives a year and prevents millions of dollars in property damages.
OK......soap box is put away!!! Sorry for the rant!Engineers make things idiot proof! Evolution makes better idiots!
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June 16th, 2022, 03:30 PM #15
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Maybe I'm just stoopid, but I'm still not convinced as to the hazard presented by a few boxes of cartridges such as 9mm rounds. I think/feel/believe if the government is involved in the rule-making, overkill presents.
There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.
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June 19th, 2022, 04:34 AM #16
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Hazmats are for the DOT and emergency responders, that*s why you see placarded load signs on trucks. Certain hazmats can not be next to each other in cargo hole or truck. Bill of ladens are specially marked and must be on top. Hazmats are to be secured in proper way. So there*s more to just throwing hazmats into a truck.
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