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    Thumbs up One aimed straight at Krasner

    One that we might be able to support. Be sure to read the memo below.

    Regular Session 2021-2022
    House Bill 2275

    Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, further providing for persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms.
    Prime Sponsor: Representative WHITE
    Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Jan. 24, 2022 [House]
    Memo: Cracking Down on Illegal Gun Use in Philadelphia
    https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...type=B&bn=2275
    Legislator's Memo
    Subject: Cracking Down on Illegal Gun Use in Philadelphia

    In the near future, we intend to introduce legislation that will renew a crime fighting tool that allows the Attorney General’s Office to have concurrent jurisdiction with a district attorney for any felony offense under Title 18 (Crimes Code).

    Under this legislation, the Attorney General shall have the authority to investigate and institute criminal proceedings for a violation of certain firearm laws within Philadelphia. Among other provisions, the legislation gives the Attorney General authority to prosecute straw purchases of firearms in Philadelphia. It also grants the Attorney General jurisdiction to prosecute the illegal possession of firearms by previously convicted felons and others in Philadelphia.

    It is imperative that our laws are upheld and violators are brought to justice, and that we stem the tide of violence in our communities. Every avenue that can help save lives must be explored.


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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    But as long as the DA and AG are both democrats that future legislation that was hinted upon will be pretty much toothless?
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    Mandatory minimum sentences are in order and refusal to prosecute said crimes should also be a felony.
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Mandatory minimum sentences are in order and refusal to prosecute said crimes should also be a felony.
    Agreed.
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    I would rather see a law that requires AG's and DA's to actually do their damn job.
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    The city folk apparently haven't been punished enough so let Krasner keep doing as good a job as he has been doing and remember Mastriano said the people of Philadelphia gave Krasner a mandate with 70% of the vote even if that crime wave spills over into the surrounding counties.
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Mandatory minimum sentences are in order and refusal to prosecute said crimes should also be a felony.
    I understand the sentiment but watch out opening the door to otherwise non-violent mandatory minimum firearm offenses in Pennsylvania. PPD has a history of abusing the LTCF process and right or wrong some peaceable citizens are left with no resort other than to carry without a LTCF.

    I’m not saying this bill about concurrent jurisdiction against those not allowed to possess firearms does that but just warning against introducing mandatory minimums in Pennsylvania firearms law for otherwise non-violent offenses.

    We should be pushing for constitutional carry and point out how Krasner and/or Shapiro are already not enforcing laws against those not allowed to possess firearms, carrying without a license, and others against the criminal element.

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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    We want to give the AG authority to prosecute people who did something for which the local DA declined to press charges?

    No.

    There are 67 counties in PA. About 66 of them are prosecuting criminals. Just 1 is not.

    The last 2 AG's (at least) have been rabid anti-gun activists.

    Why would you open the door to allow Pennsylvanians to be prosecuted by the political AG after their local DA refused to prosecute? So some guy in Potter county buys a rifle that his buddy wants at a gun show that his buddy didn't go to; the buyer takes it home, calls his buddy, who is delighted to pay him for that rifle. No crime. The local DA probably never hears about it. Until it gets posted on a gun forum, the Harrisburg activists find out, and the AG prosecutes that "straw purchase".

    Nope. Philly is stewing in its own juices, the primary losers are the people who vote for these commie scum. No reason to punish the innocent 66/67ths of the Commonwealth in a futile quest to let a Democrat AG step on the dick of a Democrat Philly DA.

    And why would this be limited to "gun crimes"? Krasner is letting rapists and burglars and everyone else off the hook, so any good faith attempt to put a keeper over him and prosecute Philly criminals would address all crimes, not just the list of gun crimes, most of which quite honestly are victimless, like having an unloaded handgun in your car when you stop at a diner on the way back from the range.
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    We want to give the AG authority to prosecute people who did something for which the local DA declined to press charges?

    No.

    There are 67 counties in PA. About 66 of them are prosecuting criminals. Just 1 is not.

    The last 2 AG's (at least) have been rabid anti-gun activists.

    Why would you open the door to allow Pennsylvanians to be prosecuted by the political AG after their local DA refused to prosecute? So some guy in Potter county buys a rifle that his buddy wants at a gun show that his buddy didn't go to; the buyer takes it home, calls his buddy, who is delighted to pay him for that rifle. No crime. The local DA probably never hears about it. Until it gets posted on a gun forum, the Harrisburg activists find out, and the AG prosecutes that "straw purchase".

    Nope. Philly is stewing in its own juices, the primary losers are the people who vote for these commie scum. No reason to punish the innocent 66/67ths of the Commonwealth in a futile quest to let a Democrat AG step on the dick of a Democrat Philly DA.

    And why would this be limited to "gun crimes"? Krasner is letting rapists and burglars and everyone else off the hook, so any good faith attempt to put a keeper over him and prosecute Philly criminals would address all crimes, not just the list of gun crimes, most of which quite honestly are victimless, like having an unloaded handgun in your car when you stop at a diner on the way back from the range.
    That is a good angle of view but there is one thing I wonder about.

    Philly is stewing in its own juices, the primary losers are the people who vote for these commie scum.
    I figure that those are actually the winners and the losers are the ones who don't vote to change it. I mean, what happens when the inmates are the majority?
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    Default Re: One aimed straight at Krasner

    Unfortunately for the families of these murder victims, Larry Krasner was elected district attorney of Philadelphia in 2017. And Krasner does not like the doctrine of second-degree murder. Under his leadership, as new murders were committed, the Philadelphia District Attorney*s Office has been reducing cases from first- or second-degree murder to third-degree murder or manslaughter, vastly cutting the amount of time these defendants will spend in jail. And Krasner has had plenty of opportunities to go light on murderers, since Philadelphia set a new all-time record for homicides in 2021, with 562 killings. Other prosecutors, including former Philadelphia district attorney and Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell, have been sharply critical of Krasner for his practice of downgrading homicides.


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