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January 22nd, 2022, 10:58 AM #1
VFG legal on semi-auto shotgun?
Is it legal to put a VFG on a semi-auto bullpup shotgun? (Centurion BP-12)
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January 22nd, 2022, 11:04 AM #2
Re: VFG legal on semi-auto shotgun?
Yes.
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January 27th, 2022, 10:02 PM #3
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January 27th, 2022, 10:02 PM #4
Re: VFG legal on semi-auto shotgun?
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Re: VFG legal on semi-auto shotgun?
I am not a lawyer.
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January 27th, 2022, 11:49 PM #6
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January 28th, 2022, 12:17 AM #7
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Re: VFG legal on semi-auto shotgun?
This. OAL measurement is tricky to explain because ATF has f'd around with different measuring procedures depending on whether it has a stock vs brace and special rules if it has a folding mechanism.
For a fixed stock shotgun, the OAL is measured from buttpad to the end of the muzzle, not including any removable muzzle devices or brakes. This measurement must be at least 26", otherwise it would fall into one of the NFA categories (i.e. short barreled shotgun, since it has a stock).
If it has a collapsible stock, OAL is measured with the stock fully extended from muzzle to butt.
If it has a folding brace, OAL is measured with brace folded from muzzle to rearmost part of firearm.
If it has no stock (just a traditional rear pistol grip or shockwave style bird's head grip), it must still be >26" OAL from muzzle to rear of grip in order to be classified as an "other" firearm which is Title 1. It also must have been built in this configuration as its first ever assembled configuration, since if it started with a stock on it, it would be a "weapon made from shotgun" which falls under Title 2 / NFA.
If has no stock (just a rear pistol grip or bird's head grip) and the OAL is <26" from muzzle to rear of grip, then it would be an Any Other Weapon (AOW) which falls under the NFA. An example of this is the Serbu Super Shorty.
Through a combination of institutional incompetence and willful vagueness, the ATF has managed to construct a set of unintuitive and often contradictory "standards" through non-binding "opinions" that enable them to reinterpret facts to suit whatever narrative they wish to tell to make a prosecution stick.
This is my best effort at summarizing the current state as I understand it. Note my signature.I am not a lawyer.
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January 28th, 2022, 03:09 AM #9
Re: VFG legal on semi-auto shotgun?
I'm well aware of all that. Op has a bullpup shotgun and it still must be over 26" oal
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January 28th, 2022, 10:21 AM #10
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