Drawbacks of Pistol to SBR conversion question

[pens87pgh]

Whach'u talking 'bout, Willis? There are at least 4 pistol braces that telescope.

The BEST one is the Tailhook Mod 2
(I thought the SBA3 was the best, until I tried the Tailhook)



Also, he can't put a forward grip on a pistol unless the overall length meets a magic number. (I forget if it's 26", or not)

The sb tactical sba3 is a 6 position adjustable brace....

I stand corrected as well. I for some reason thought that a telescoping stock was something that contributed to a SBR. Good to know!

[85MikeTPI]

Also, he can't put a forward grip on a pistol unless the overall length meets a magic number. (I forget if it's 26", or not)

A 45deg "hand hold" is legal on a pistol and does 90% of what a VFG does..

I'm not a fan of SBRs with the current AR pistol laws, but we know that Brandon and his cucks will screw that up soon enough.

[Walleye Hunter]

I thought you could un-SBR it any time you wanted. Am I wrong on that? I also read that you could put the writing on the barrel and an Uzi makes a great version because the barrel is easy to change. I would expect the same would go for an AR pistol.

[icp4life162005]

I stand corrected as well. I for some reason thought that a telescoping stock was something that contributed to a SBR. Good to know!

Just get your terminology correct, telescoping brace..
Not a stock.

That 1 word could get you strung up in front of a judge, stupidly enough.

[John7367]

Wow! Thank you all for the comments. Having not started down the NFA road as yet, and for many of the reasons you all gave, I will keep the pistol configuration.

Another question, though...
Does anyone know the status of the ATF "scorecard" rules? Are we to use them to determine the legality of our AR/AK pistols?

[Emptymag]

No idea what a "scorecard" is, but you use the law to determine the legality of - anything.

It's either legal, or it's not.

[icp4life162005]

No idea what a "scorecard" is, but you use the law to determine the legality of - anything.

It's either legal, or it's not.

This.

Fuck their mind game bullshit, and attempts at decreeing law.

[Xringshooter]

As said, an SBR can be carried, loaded, in a vehicle as long as you meet all the requirements.

Putting your info on the firearm is not a big deal, it can be placed anywhere as long as it is visible. Many people put it on the front of the mag well, it's visible but yet inconspicious (how many people look at the front of the mag well?).

You can sell it as a pistol, just take the stock off, put a brace on (or just a padded buffer tube) and send a letter to the NFA Division asking it to be removed from the database as you have reconfigured it from a Title II firearm to a Title I firearm. It's not a big deal to them, you get a letter from them saying it's been removed in about 2 weeks or less).

[John7367]

No idea what a "scorecard" is, but you use the law to determine the legality of - anything.

It's either legal, or it's not.

Well, by "scorecard" I sarcastically meant the AFT worksheet they proposed back in the summer for owners to use in determining whether or not an AR pistol is an NFA item. I know there was a public comment period happening as well as a letter sent by some Congressmen asking the to ATF to step back from the pistol brace question. But I haven't been able to find any information regarding the implementation or withdrawal of the worksheet. So I came here for some cursory guidance before contacting a 2A attorney. Unfortunately for me, the ATF classifications and directives are at best confusing and ambiguous.

[Emptymag]

Nah... relax. It's not that ambiguous.
The law is the law.
Pistol braces are legal at the time of this posting.
If you have a specific question about what's ok/not ok, just ask.