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    Default LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    "Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ims-corruption
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    1st they let a guy steal 44 guns from the official cop store and only catch him after he takes his 1st day off in almost 10 years and despite being a shit paper they admit LA PD is getting rich selling "unsafe" list guns and the list is BS.

    How the theft of 44 firearms from an L.A. gun store exploded into an LAPD scandal

    Before it all came crashing down, Archi Duenas’ gun-stealing scheme was relatively simple, county prosecutors wrote in a memo. He just couldn’t go on vacation.

    Duenas, manager of the gun store at the Los Angeles Police Academy, had been reprimanded over the years for tardiness and sloppy record keeping, but he never took time off, according to the memo. As the store’s closing supervisor, he was there each night to lock up — and hand count the inventory.

    If someone else had been assigned that count, they might have discovered that dozens of guns were missing and that Duenas was stealing them and selling them for cash, prosecutors wrote in the memo. But since he was always there, the Los Angeles Police Revolver and Athletic Club was apparently none the wiser.

    This went on for years, prosecutors wrote, facilitated by a lack of oversight and safety protocols that are considered standard in other gun stores.

    Then, in February 2020, Duenas’ bosses told him he had accrued the “maximum allowable leave hours” and had to take time off, prosecutors wrote in the memo. When he did, another manager finally made the startling discovery: Boxes meant to have guns in them were actually empty.

    The resulting investigation quickly led to Duenas’ arrest. But it also uncovered a larger scandal inside the LAPD: The clientele for Duenas’ stolen weapons included cops.

    LAPD and L.A. County District Attorney records and interviews by The Times show that what started out as a probe into Duenas has spiraled in the last year and a half, spurring a cascade of allegations of criminal activity, misconduct and corruption on the part of officers and commanders.

    There are also dueling claims by some of the accused officers that they have been scapegoated by overzealous investigators despite doing nothing wrong and being victims themselves — not only of Duenas’ deception, but of years of negligence on the part of the LAPD to ensure proper management of the gun store, which it directed officers to use.

    That alleged neglect, according to a pending claim against the city from one officer, came despite the fact that the LAPD was aware for years of “prior negligence and mismanagement issues related to the sale, tracking, and documentation of firearms and firearm transactions” by gun store personnel.

    The case raises red flags about the LAPD’s oversight of the gun store and its ability to investigate its own officers. It also offers an eye-opening window into the gun culture within the LAPD and the degree to which LAPD officers are allegedly profiting off the sale of firearms — including “off roster” guns that police officers have special access to despite their being declared unsafe for commercial sale in the state.

    Investigators alleged LAPD officers, including several who are still on the job, knowingly purchased stolen weapons from Duenas, bought and sold much larger numbers of firearms in questionable ways, and dangerously stored loaded guns in places accessible to children, according to internal police records.

    Top commanders, meanwhile, have been accused by the captain who initially oversaw the investigation of purposefully impeding the work of her detectives and assisting those in their crosshairs, including by forcing investigators to interview a high-ranking captain whom they suspected of wrongdoing before they were prepared to do so, and by ushering that same captain into his home — armed and in uniform — while investigators with a warrant were searching it, internal LAPD records show.

    “The facts speak for themselves,” wrote Capt. Lillian Carranza, who oversees the LAPD’s commercial crimes division, in an April email to other top officials. “There have been several attempts to shut down this investigation.”

    LAPD officials have denied that claim and said the investigation has been handled with the utmost integrity, with detectives following every lead and their work undergoing multiple levels of review.

    No officers have been criminally convicted in the case, but one faces a gun charge in Long Beach — which he denies — and several have had criminal cases presented against them to prosecutors. Some of the investigations are ongoing.
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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    "Absolute power corrupts absolutely*

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ims-corruption
    Cliff notes:
    1st they let a guy steal 44 guns from the official cop store and only catch him after he takes his 1st day off in almost 10 years and despite being a shit paper they admit LA PD is getting rich selling "unsafe" list guns and the list is BS.

    How the theft of 44 firearms from an L.A. gun store exploded into an LAPD scandal
    Oh look, turns out most of the orchard is rotten afterall.

    Wonder if the sky is still blue?

    I'm sure a resident boot or licker will be along shortly to tell us all how this is a one off event that will be handled appropriately.
    While completely glazing over reality.

    Edit to add:
    Was gunna drop a link to the LAPD and other police gang information, but I'm not going bother to copy paste an encyclopedia worth of information to avoid the ban hammer. If you want more info, figure it out on your own cause that's how it works here now. Side effects and all.

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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    imagine that LAPD breaking the rules. i dont expect much to happen except the main guy being charged and probably be given a deal.

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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    *yawn*

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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    what ever happened to the philly ar's that went missing , that story disappeared ....

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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    "...guns that police officers have special access to despite their being declared unsafe for commercial sale in the state".

    Sounds like LAPD personnel had access to guns not allowed to be sold in California, not "unsafe" per se. Access is undefined. Used on the range? Carried on duty? Carried off duty? Bedside stored? C'mon, Man....every job has its perks, for cripes sake.
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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    "...guns that police officers have special access to despite their being declared unsafe for commercial sale in the state".
    Maybe the govt there knows Californians are dumber than everyone else. Makes sense that some guns would be unavailable because people there are too stupid to use them properly.

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    Default Re: LA PD gun thefts and the BS of the "unsafe" list

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    "...guns that police officers have special access to despite their being declared unsafe for commercial sale in the state".

    Sounds like LAPD personnel had access to guns not allowed to be sold in California, not "unsafe" per se. Access is undefined. Used on the range? Carried on duty? Carried off duty? Bedside stored? C'mon, Man....every job has its perks, for cripes sake.
    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Maybe the govt there knows Californians are dumber than everyone else. Makes sense that some guns would be unavailable because people there are too stupid to use them properly.
    There are about 800 firearms on the California approved list.

    https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search

    It*s odd. Only certain generations of Glocks are considered safe, while they are almost identical to other generations which are not approved.

    I was at that range store when I was in Los Angeles in 2009. I should have seen if they could hook a brother up

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandy View Post
    what ever happened to the philly ar's that went missing , that story disappeared ....
    Last I heard it was one missing Vietnam era rifle bought from the government and it could not be determined whether it was not shipped in the batch or stolen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icp4life162005 View Post
    Oh look, turns out most of the orchard is rotten afterall.

    Wonder if the sky is still blue?

    I'm sure a resident boot or licker will be along shortly to tell us all how this is a one off event that will be handled appropriately.
    While completely glazing over reality.

    Edit to add:
    Was gunna drop a link to the LAPD and other police gang information, but I'm not going bother to copy paste an encyclopedia worth of information to avoid the ban hammer. If you want more info, figure it out on your own cause that's how it works here now. Side effects and all.
    Who are these boot or lickers that are approving of corruption and criminal action that you speak of? Because stories like these are usually critically condemned by all on here, which they should be.

    By the way if you want a really juicy LAPD scandal, look up the shooting death of Biggie Smalls. I have read books by a LAPD Detective that had my head spinning. LAbyrinth: A Detective Investigates the Murders of Tupac Shakur amd Notorious B.I.G by Russell Poole which was made into the movie City of Lies. And a follow up book by Randall Sullivan, DEAD WRONG The continuing story of City of Lies.

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