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    Default THE Gun MOST Returned by Panic Buyers

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    I dont like striker fired handguns. Sitting in my kids parent teacher meeting had me sweating.
    Thats when i decided to carry my russian makarov.

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    I will never own a Glock........But to say they are being returned because they don't have an external safety is BS.

    In a moment of darkness I bought my one and only striker fired plastic pistol. A S&W shield when they were on sale for a little over $200 new and I specifically bought one without an external safety. And to be honest I started to like it.

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    Not how I thought that was gonna go. Guess it makes sense though, purely as a matter of scale. Thought would be large caliber, short barrel offerings...snubbies and pistol grip shotguns, that sorta thing.

    "I'd like the 2" 500S&W because that's what the Rock uses in the movies" kinda thing.

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    Sounds like a valid reason to me. It doesn't seem unreasonable that new gun owners don't feel comfortable with a handgun with no safety.
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    Default Re: THE Gun MOST Returned by Panic Buyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Sounds like a valid reason to me. It doesn't seem unreasonable that new gun owners don't feel comfortable with a handgun with no safety.
    If they are new gun owners, how can they know any difference between a firearm with or without a safety?

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    I explicitly wanted my first handgun to be sans safety. But then I also wanted it to be hammer fired and TDA, so I traded one "safety" mechanism for another.
    Member: NJ "undocumented" Felons Club. NRA Life Member

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    I call shenanigans.
    Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion -Karl Marx

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    Default Re: THE Gun MOST Returned by Panic Buyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    If they are new gun owners, how can they know any difference between a firearm with or without a safety?
    That's what I'm saying.

    Step 1. Ask what kind of gun would be a good gun to buy.
    Step 2. Buy Glock.
    Step 3. Open box.
    Step 4. Scratch head wondering where the safety is.
    Step 5. "I don't feel comfortable with a gun with no safety, can I exchange this for something with a safety?"
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    Default Re: THE Gun MOST Returned by Panic Buyers

    Truth is simple:

    Some folks understand 'safety' to mean gun won't go off unless you mean it to. For them, a 'mechanical' safety isn't required. The pistol I keep at my bedside -H&K VP9- doesn't have one, but rather a 'trigger' safety.

    Some folks - and it makes sense newbs would be here - think a 'safety' is like a Windows pop-up going "Are you SURE you want to delete this file even though you clicked delete?" AKA "Are you SURE you want this gun to fire even though you pulled the trigger?"

    Personally, I don't want that for a home-defense/nightstand type gun.

    However, I DO have guns with 'mechanical' safeties. My EDC has one. To me that's not an issue - the 'flip down' of the safety as I draw is nearly muscle-memory for a gun I'm carrying and gonna pull from a holster.

    I don't think they're 'good' or 'bad. I make no judgement on it. There are perfectly-good guns with them, and perfectly-good shooters who like/accept them.

    Just saying it doesn't shock me that a trembling newb first-time 'reluctant' gun owner would be uncomfortable without the 'are you sure?' popup. Perhaps (probably) unwisely. But understandable.
    DGAF

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