THE Gun MOST Returned by Panic Buyers

[eatmydust]

Hmm, I wonder which firearm was the most often panic bought over the last couple of years?

Wow, I'll bet it was a Glock also.

[McSull]

Hmm, I wonder which firearm was the most often panic bought over the last couple of years?

Wow, I'll bet it was a Glock also.

Ask any non gun owner to name a brand. Guessing most pick Glock

[Walleye Hunter]

Ask any non gun owner to name a brand. Guessing most pick Glock

The schmart ones will pick H&K.

[Walleye Hunter]

Ask any non gun owner to name a brand. Guessing most pick Glock

The schmart ones will pick H&K.

[Ronin]

Truth is simple:

Some folks understand 'safety' to mean gun won't go off unless you mean it to. For them, a 'mechanical' safety isn't required. The pistol I keep at my bedside -H&K VP9- doesn't have one, but rather a 'trigger' safety.

Some folks - and it makes sense newbs would be here - think a 'safety' is like a Windows pop-up going "Are you SURE you want to delete this file even though you clicked delete?" AKA "Are you SURE you want this gun to fire even though you pulled the trigger?"

Personally, I don't want that for a home-defense/nightstand type gun.

However, I DO have guns with 'mechanical' safeties. My EDC has one. To me that's not an issue - the 'flip down' of the safety as I draw is nearly muscle-memory for a gun I'm carrying and gonna pull from a holster.

I don't think they're 'good' or 'bad. I make no judgement on it. There are perfectly-good guns with them, and perfectly-good shooters who like/accept them.

Just saying it doesn't shock me that a trembling newb first-time 'reluctant' gun owner would be uncomfortable without the 'are you sure?' popup. Perhaps (probably) unwisely. But understandable.

^^^This^^^

My nightstand gun is a SIG SP2022. It's a SA/DA pistol with no manual safety; just a decocker lever. Being SA/DA, it's always hammer down, round in the chamber. It's got a great trigger, but it's got enough weight on the DA pull that it will not go off unless that's what I intended.

I carry a SIG P365. It has a manual safety. It didn't come that way as I couldn't find any with one at the time. So I bought a kit and installed it myself. I wanted a safety because the trigger on the P365 is relatively light. The N82 Tactical IWB holster I carry it in uses an elastic band to secure the gun. It wouldn't take much to get something bunched into the trigger guard - my shirt, the edge of my pants, the elastic band of the holster - and cause an ND. I've been shooting and competing with 1911's for 30+ years. Disabling a safety is second nature for me. I've caught myself "disabling" a safety on a gun that didn't have one, just out of habit. I'm not concerned about forgetting to take it off, and I don't buy into the whole "one more thing that could fail" malarkey that some like to point out because they read it on the Internet.

[Ronin]

Sans safety and hammer fired sounds like a revolver to me. And, if external safety missing brings back unfired Glocks, it would seem there should also be a load of revolvers coming back as well.

Most revolvers have a heavy DA trigger pull. You have to mean it when you pull it. That's enough safety for most.

[Ronin]

My first gun was a Glock...because I wanted it to go bang when pulling the trigger.

Trigger disclipine and finger placement off the trigger is key.

Most panic buyers didn't get the training necessary to learn that. At most they probably got the four rules, which to a new shooter usually goes in one ear and out the other unless it's drilled into their head repeatedly. And even if they did heed what they were told, it's unlikely they practiced drawing from a holster or re-holstering hundreds of times a night until doing so became second nature. So now you have someone who is unfamiliar with the gun they just bought, who vaguely remembers something about keeping their finger off the trigger, who just tried to stick it in the cheap Uncle Mike's holster they got at the shop where they bought the gun, and BANG!.... Glock leg, hole in the floor, the wall, the nightstand, or something worse.

[RockIsland]

My first gun was a Glock...because I wanted it to go bang when pulling the trigger.

Trigger disclipine and finger placement off the trigger is key.

My last pistol purchase was a G19.

It took me 46 years of shooting to be comfortable enough to carry such an unsafe weapon.

[esh21167]

My last pistol purchase was a G19.

It took me 46 years of shooting to be comfortable enough to carry such an unsafe weapon.

LOL.

You are kidding, right?

[Grizzlytrap]

It took me 46 years of shooting to be comfortable enough to carry such an unsafe weapon.

Some are born with a silver spoon. You were born with hand guns?