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    Default The Federal Gun Database --- That is NOT a Registry!

    Biden Admin Amassing Millions of Records on US Gun Owners Amid New Crackdown on Firearms
    https://freebeacon.com/biden-adminis...n-on-firearms/

    The Biden administration in just the past year alone stockpiled the records of more than 54 million U.S. gun owners and is poised to drastically alter gun regulations to ensure that information on Americans who own firearms ultimately ends up in the federal government's hands, according to internal Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

    The ATF in fiscal year 2021 processed 54.7 million out-of-business records, according to an internal ATF document obtained by the Gun Owners of America, a firearms advocacy group, and provided exclusively to the Free Beacon. When a licensed gun store goes out of business, its private records detailing gun transactions become ATF property and are stored at a federal site in West Virginia. This practice allows the federal government to stockpile scores of gun records and has drawn outrage from gun advocacy groups that say the government is using this information to create a national database of gun owners * which has long been prohibited under U.S. law.

    The ATF obtained 53.8 million paper records and another 887,000 electronic records, according to the internal document that outlines ATF actions in fiscal year 2021. Gun activists described this figure as worryingly high and said it contributes to fears that the Biden administration is trying to keep track of all Americans who own firearms, in violation of federal statutes. The procurement of these records by the ATF comes as the Biden administration moves to alter current laws to ensure that gun records are stored in perpetuity. Currently, gun shops can destroy their records after 20 years, thereby preventing the ATF from accessing the information in the future.

    "As if the addition of over 50 million records to an ATF gun registry wasn't unconstitutional or illegal enough, the Biden administration's misuse of *out-of-business' records doesn't end there," Aidan Johnston, the Gun Owners of America's director of federal affairs, told the Free Beacon. "Instead of maintaining the right of [licensed firearm dealers] to destroy Firearm Transaction Records after 20 years, buried within Biden's proposed regulations is a provision that would mean every single Firearm Transaction Record going forward would eventually be sent to ATF's registry in West Virginia."

    The ATF's registry site has long been a battleground between gun advocates and the federal government. Those in favor of more restrictive gun measures want the ATF to digitize this registry and create a federal database of U.S. gun owners, a move opposed by groups such as the Gun Owners of America and the National Rifle Association. The ATF has so many records stored in its West Virginia site that several years ago the floor collapsed, according to the New York Times.

    An ATF spokesman declined to comment on internal agency records but told the Free Beacon that the agency's "National Tracing Center processes millions of out of business records each month." However, "those out of business records do not constitute an initiation or continuation of any federal gun registry," the spokesman said.

    The Gun Control Act of 1968 mandates that licensed firearm dealers that go out of business provide the ATF with their records. They are then processed into images, though the ATF maintains this database cannot be searched by a purchaser's name. Physical records, the agency says, are then destroyed.

    The record-keeping issue has received new scrutiny as the Biden administration readies to implement several new restrictions on firearms and owners, including a proposed ban on anywhere from 10 to 40 million pistol braces, which are used as stabilizers on popular weapons such as AR-15s. Under these guidelines, gun owners would be ordered to register or destroy these pistol braces.

    The ATF's proposed regulations would also require gun parts to be regulated with background checks, meaning that if an individual assembled a legal homemade gun, he may be forced to submit to up to 16 different background checks.

    Gun advocates, including the Gun Owners of America, accuse the Biden administration of abusing the rule-making process to ensure these regulations are put into effect in record time, possibly before the end of the year.

    "The Biden administration has forced ATF to undertake the rule-making process in record time*resulting in faulty argumentation and demonstrating that neither ATF nor Biden's anti-gun appointees know anything about the firearms and accessories they seek to regulate," said Johnston.

    The ATF, through its spokesman, maintained that its rule-making process allows for gun advocates, experts, and others to offer comment on proposed regulations well before they go into effect. "Congress and the Government Accountability Office have an opportunity to review any final rule prior to its effective date," the spokesman said. "The process is anything but *speedy.'"
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    An ATF spokesman declined to comment on internal agency records but told the Free Beacon that the agency's "National Tracing Center processes millions of out of business records each month." However, "those out of business records do not constitute an initiation or continuation of any federal gun registry," the spokesman said.

    The Gun Control Act of 1968 mandates that licensed firearm dealers that go out of business provide the ATF with their records. They are then processed into images, though the ATF maintains this database cannot be searched by a purchaser's name. Physical records, the agency says, are then destroyed.
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    That is the familiar 'Propaganda' from the Pennsylvania State Police as well...

    I wonder how many small FFLs went out of business due to the Extreme Panic over the Coronavirus???

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    Damn I*m in there.

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    They have been doing this for years......

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    Doing anything with those records, especially digitizing the paper 4473s requires bureaucrats to do work. As if that's going to happen at any kind of meaningful pace. I've been to the Martinsburg ATF facility a few times, and it has only so many employees.

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    Let's do this. Time to rock n' roll if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_Zark View Post
    Doing anything with those records, especially digitizing the paper 4473s requires bureaucrats to do work. As if that's going to happen at any kind of meaningful pace. I've been to the Martinsburg ATF facility a few times, and it has only so many employees.
    Noah
    The new achievements of AI are astounding - The capability to create video of you someplace you've never been and doing things you never would do... It only takes the choice of someone with power to apply the technical-wizardry that now exists (and which will be far advanced as time passes) to produce a trackable & searchable textual/image database from these stored images for law enforcement to apply such information against any citizen it chooses to target.

    The past couple years of Outrageous Assaults on the liberties we once assumed were secure should drive every Freedom-loving American to demand of their representatives the restoration of the Innocent-Until-Proven-Guilty approach to every factor of government actions. Creating a collection of gun ownership records (which is a registry, no matter what name is used or how incomplete it may be) is a guilty-until-proven-innocent action. It matters not what form the database takes - either written or imaged - in one location or many - the fact that it exists is reason enough to know that nefarious actors will use such information when the opportunity arises.

    It is the ignoring of evil while infant that allows the nefarious to nurture that evil into a mature form for means of usurpation and control. No matter how good any stated intentions, freedom-violating policies and procedures will certainly be nurtured into freedom-killing actions and events.


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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    The original!!!

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    House Republicans Warn of ATF Backdoor Gun Registry
    By Nick Koutsobinas - 22 November 2021
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/at...22/id/1045744/

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives could be moving toward a federal gun registry, a group of House Republicans warned Monday.

    In a letter to acting ATF Director Marvin Richardson, Rep. Michael Cloud, R-Texas, along with 51 of his Republican colleagues, addressed concerns about the agency's proposed rule that requires gun shops to keep their reports beyond a 20-year period.

    Currently, stores can destroy records after 20 years.

    "The Biden administration is yet again ignoring the real threats against America and instead using political leverage to encroach on the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens," Cloud told Fox News.

    "This proposed rule would be a giant leap toward a federal firearm registry, which is explicitly banned by law," Cloud added.

    "Requiring federal firearm licensees to preserve records older than 20 years will enable the Biden administration to collect more information on law-abiding gun owners, all with the purpose of eventually having a registry of every gun owner in the United States."

    Under Biden, the ATF has collected 54.7 million out-of-business paper records and 887,000 electronic records detailing gun transactions and other private firearm information. The records are kept in a federal warehouse managed by the ATF in West Virginia.
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    Default Re: The Federal Gun Database --- That is NOT a Registry!

    Good thing I’ve been filling out all my paperwork as “Unknown Male”

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