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November 6th, 2021, 12:43 PM #21Grand Member
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Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
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November 6th, 2021, 01:51 PM #22
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
Yeah, that's me too. I tend to drive in a 'spirited' manner in the dry, but go slow & steady (even with 4x4 and decent tires) in the snow/ice.
Even more than that, I just avoid going out when the roads are shitty. I'm lucky to be in that situation: I don't have a 'job job' to which I must go, and barring some emergency we can easily not leave the property for a couple days.
Finally... So. Central PA. We just don't get 'significant' snowfall here that many times/winter. If I lived up by Erie, higher elevation, etc. might be different.
Oddly enough, I was debating just this morning how much to get into 'snow removal' for my new (fairly large/long) driveway. Do I stick with my 24" good-enough snowblower and just know it'll take a while? Or upgrade to something bigger? Or just pay the guy next door (who has a plowing biz) to do my driveway the few times there's enough to matter... I'm leaning toward the latter at the moment.DGAF
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November 6th, 2021, 03:07 PM #23
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
^I second latter.^
The motion passes.
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November 6th, 2021, 03:40 PM #24
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
Common sense is but snow tires really aren’t. Sure they improve your traction but they’re not absolutely necessary.
I spent a lot of time skiing back in the day on the east coast, west coast, BC/Canadian Rockies, and even in NZ. Not once did I ever have snow tires, or ever get in a accident. I grew up driving 400hp rear wheel drive lead sleds, so I don’t drive like a granny either.
Once drove up to Vermont for a week in a blizzard both ways in a ‘70 Delta 88 with shitty bias plies. I did drive like a granny that time.
Now in my front wheel drive fart boxes, I have been putting snows at least on the front. On the AWD’s? Nope, don’t really need them around here. If I was more north it might be a different story.Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion -Karl Marx
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November 6th, 2021, 04:00 PM #25
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
I can drive better in snow on racing slicks than all of you put together.
Bam!
End thread.I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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November 7th, 2021, 08:41 AM #26
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
I live in Erie, where we get real snow. 72 inches over Christmas, no problem.
Both things mentioned here, got tires, and 4wd/SUVs are problems.
I live in the city. THere, the biggest problem you see is cars without good tires. Not even snow tires, but even good tires. And added to the fact that we get so much snow, that cars don't have he ground clearance needed. Half of the cars I see stuck aren't even because of tires, but because the people are too lazy to shovel their driveways, or the street department hasn't plowed a road yet, and their bumper is lower than the snow.
SUV's/4 WD trucks are issues on the highways/rural roads because they drive as fast as they can, but are too stupid to realize that they can't stop.
I have lived in Eire my entire life, and gone to school, work, even shopping in blizzards that would have crippled cities for weeks. Heck, here, if we get a blizzard, we go to the mall. ( I don't go to the mall anymore, I'd be perfectly happy never to go to the mall for the rest of my life).
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November 7th, 2021, 08:48 AM #27Grand Member
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Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
We got caught in Erie for Christmas a couple years back when they broke every record in the book for snow fall. We were in a FWD sedan with some of the best all season tires I've ever had in my life (Goodyear Tripletreads. Shame on you Goodyear for discontinuing them and "replacing" them with a much shittier tire.) While we did amazingly well on the barely plowed major and side roads, I can tell you even full snows would still have been sketchy. I do agree with you though, that people far too often don't consider matching their tires to the conditions. You can almost blame tire manufacturers for that, for making "all seasons" that *can* do remarkably well in bad conditions, but the people are too stupid to realize that just means you can go longer with them, not that they're a replacement for actual snow rated tires.
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November 7th, 2021, 08:59 AM #28
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
Individuals who live in Erie are stunning and brave.
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November 7th, 2021, 11:31 AM #29
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
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November 7th, 2021, 11:44 AM #30
Re: ⚠️ Report: Pa. ranked one of the deadliest states for winter driving crashes
My pick up travels effortlessly in even the deepest snow. I take my time though and give space to other vehicles but I will go around a vehicle that looks like they just graduated from a Florida driving school. One thing I have noticed though is that the same people that wear masks while driving even at this stage are the same ones that think because they have a 4wd SUV they can drive at summer highway speeds.
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