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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    I thought NICS was the entity that is supposed to flag felons, etc, who are not supposed to buy firearms.

    PICS should be flagged by The Department of Redundancy Department...

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    I don't know that they have a LTCF, I believe that they are constitutional carry.
    Right, no license needed to carry (open or concealed) if 21+

    However, you can get one if you want. That a) allows you to carry if 18-20 b) allows you to carry in other states that have reciprocity with WV and c) allows you to purchase without background check.

    https://ago.wv.gov/gunreciprocity/Pages/FAQ.aspx
    DGAF

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    PICS, one gun a month, cooling off periods, and some other laws are ridiculous if the person already owns guns. The biggest example of ridiculous is requiring licensing, permissions and approvals when the second amendment should be IT
    There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    I remember when it was. Back at the start before pics was implemented. Show your license and take it home.
    Yup, I was waiting to see if I was the only one to remember that.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Qtrborecrazy View Post
    You mean you didn*t get your special # yet? Canadians get a special # from the government that allows them to buy rifles on line and have them sent right to their front door. Hell they use our SS# for everything else, why not to purchase firearms?
    Never heard of such a thing LOL

    I definitely think the system is broken when someone can already have all of these background checks and clearances, and still get delayed every time they purchase another gun

    But I also think I should be able to go to WalMart, grab a full auto off the shelf, and go through self checkout

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    PICS, one gun a month, cooling off periods, and some other laws are ridiculous if the person already owns guns. The biggest example of ridiculous is requiring licensing, permissions and approvals when the second amendment should be IT
    The one gun a month is a completely idiotic idea, there has been multiple times I've bought more than one gun at at time. Honestly I prefer that if I'm going to fill out paperwork and wait a little bit I may as well make it worth my time. There are also people that travel to different shops that have a more uncommon selection of firearms too. That's generally when I'm buying more than one because it's guns I can't find at every gun shop in the state.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    My previous state didn't require background check with a concealed carry permit. It was nice.

    No one a month bullshit either. Last time I bought guns, I bought two pistols at the same time.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    We have to email, call, and even speak with our representatives and senators to show them our thoughts. Even if this will never pass due to taxes and Wolf, our representatives will know where we stand.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by KPShooting View Post
    They'll never do it because a PICS check is an income generator for the state police. They charge the FFL, and the FFL in turn (after a markup) charges you.
    $2.50 is hardly an income generator. It’s an excuse to “generate” state income while having an incomplete database that’s not a registry.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbill990 View Post
    $2.50 is hardly an income generator. It*s an excuse to *generate* state income while having an incomplete database that*s not a registry.
    427,000 PICS checks in the first QUARTER of 2021. I never studied mathematics above high school calculus but I can tell you that at two fifty a pop, that is quite a bit of cash over an entire year. Also, PICS has nothing at all to do with the PA State Police Record of Sale.

    https://www.media.pa.gov/pages/pa-st...spx?newsid=663

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