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    Default Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    I just reached out to my district representative and senator regarding a pro gun legislation I had in mind, if you agree please email/call your reps. and senator to ask politely for support. Here is my draft.

    Good Afternoon Senator/representative____,

    Hi, this is ____,
    I'm reaching out to you to share my thoughts about purchasing guns in PA.
    In a number of states as long as the person holds a valid License to carry firearms, they can bypass the NICS background check.
    The FFL dealers (gun stores) are raising their prices just to do a gun transfer, some are charging as much as $80 per transfer.
    I strongly feel it's repetitive and a hassle to have a background check done on you multiple times even when you are a lawful gun owner with a valid carry permit.
    Please consider introducing legislation to allow lawful gun owners with a valid License to carry to bypass the background check, a background check and investigation is already done when you apply for a License to carry.

    Thankyou for your time

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Will3212 View Post
    I just reached out to my district representative and senator regarding a pro gun legislation I had in mind, if you agree please email/call your reps. and senator to ask politely for support. Here is my draft.

    Good Afternoon Senator/representative____,

    Hi, this is ____,
    I'm reaching out to you to share my thoughts about purchasing guns in PA.
    In a number of states as long as the person holds a valid License to carry firearms, they can bypass the NICS background check.
    The FFL dealers (gun stores) are raising their prices just to do a gun transfer, some are charging as much as $80 per transfer.
    I strongly feel it's repetitive and a hassle to have a background check done on you multiple times even when you are a lawful gun owner with a valid carry permit.
    Please consider introducing legislation to allow lawful gun owners with a valid License to carry to bypass the background check, a background check and investigation is already done when you apply for a License to carry.

    Thankyou for your time
    Sounds good but I can't see it getting past Herr Wolf's desk.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Shit Pics doesn't even recognize LTCF as any sort of ID.
    Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
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    They'll never do it because a PICS check is an income generator for the state police. They charge the FFL, and the FFL in turn (after a markup) charges you.
    F*#K THE ATF

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by lager1829 View Post
    Sounds good but I can't see it getting past Herr Wolf's desk.
    or Shapiro's when he gets "promoted"

    Quote Originally Posted by KPShooting View Post
    They'll never do it because a PICS check is an income generator for the state police. They charge the FFL, and the FFL in turn (after a markup) charges you.
    definitely this, it's always about the money.
    -Brandon


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    Quote Originally Posted by KPShooting View Post
    They'll never do it because a PICS check is an income generator for the state police. They charge the FFL, and the FFL in turn (after a markup) charges you.
    But it would be a supply chain relief mechanism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pens87pgh View Post
    or Shapiro's when he gets "promoted"
    That's a depressing thought, but unfortunately likely true.

    That's a tough road for us.

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by lager1829 View Post
    Sounds good but I can't see it getting past führer Wolf's desk.
    Fixed.

    PA is a tax state, everything to generate taxes. And that tax focus is probably why we have pretty relaxed gun laws. Take away that tax incentive and we'd probably get pretty shitty restrictive gun laws.

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    Tax, tax, tax. Apologize in advance for the thread drift but how the fuck did we ever find ourselves in a situation where we have to pay sales tax on a vehicle every time its sold?

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    Default Re: Bypass PICS with PA LTCF

    I can't imagine PICS being replaced by the LTCF, simply because a license could have been issued nearly 5 years ago. A person could have been convicted in that time without the sheriff having taken any revocation action.

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