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    Default Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    Innocent bystander among the injured as struggle over gun leads to shooting inside Lancaster mall

    Updated: Oct. 18, 2021, 5:46 p.m. | Published: Oct. 18, 2021, 1:11 p.m.


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    By David Wenner | dwenner@pennlive.com
    A struggle over a gun preceded multiple people sustaining gunshot wounds inside Park City Center mall in Lancaster County, Lancaster police said on Monday.

    Police believe six shots were fired — including some fired by an armed bystander who emerged from a nearby store and intervened.

    A female walking by with her family and unconnected with the dispute was among those shot, police said.

    The gunfire took place on Sunday afternoon inside the section of the mall occupied by JC Penney

    Lancaster police on Monday morning said a male 16-year-old city resident has been arrested and is awaiting charges.

    Police said the 16-year-old, whose name wasn’t given, got in a fight with an acquaintance and pulled out a handgun.

    Police said others joined the fight, with the 16-year-old firing shots and hitting one of the people who joined the fight.

    Police said an armed bystander who was in another store and wasn’t involved in the fight heard the shots and then shot one of the people struggling over the gun -- apparently the 16-year-old who initiated the shooting. Police said the 16-year-old was hospitalized for a non-life-threatening gunshot injury.

    Police said the armed bystander waited for police to arrive and turned over his weapon. Police said the county district attorney will decide if the bystanders’ actions were legal and justified.

    Police said two other males who struggled over the gun were shot and sustained non-life-threatening injuries.

    Police said the female who was shot while walking through the mall had non-life-threatening injuries.

    Police said two of the people who were shot have been released from the hospital, and no one involved in the incident had life-threatening injuries.

    Police said they are piecing together “video footage from many different sources” to understand exactly what took place.

    They are asking anyone with information to call Lancaster police at 717-735-3301.

    The mall reopened at regular time on Monday morning.

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/1...unty-mall.html
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    Default Re: Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    "Don't pull out your gun, pull out your camera.."

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    Default Re: Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    Keep an eye out for the Lancaster area hero who has NOT posted the last two days. He should be talking to a lawyer.

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    Default Re: Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    From the Lancaster newspaper:

    A bystander armed with a gun intervened in a shooting in Park City Center on Sunday afternoon, shooting one of the participants, Lancaster police said.
    The unidentified bystander, who legally possessed the firearm, had heard gunshots related to a fight between two males that knew each other, police said. The bystander remained on scene until security and police arrived.
    Police said the initial shooting stemmed from an altercation between two males who knew each other and at least one of them — a 16-year-old boy — had a gun.
    They, and other people then struggled for the gun and the 16 year old fired at least two shots, striking at least one of the people involved.
    The bystander, who had been in a store nearby, heard the shots, came over and “then engaged the subjects fighting over the gun and fired shots, striking one of the suspects.”
    Police said the 16 year old was the initial shooter and will be charged.
    He was taken to a hospital for treatment. Two males involved in the initial altercation were also shot, but their injuries are not life threatening, police said. A fourth person, a female passing by with her family, was shot in the arm, police said; her injury also is not life-threatening.
    Police did not release further details and declined to answer questions. It was not clear if the bystander shot the 16 year old, or another suspect.
    All told, six shots were fired, police said, but it was not clear who fired how many times. Two guns were recovered.
    The Lancaster County District Attorney's office is investigating the bystander's actions, police said. The bystander was released after an interview with police.
    Though the bystander had a legal gun, Park City prohibits weapons.

    https://lancasteronline.com/news/loc...efbfb6cbf.html

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    Default Re: Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Here4now View Post
    From the Lancaster newspaper:

    A bystander armed with a gun intervened in a shooting in Park City Center on Sunday afternoon, shooting one of the participants, Lancaster police said.
    The unidentified bystander, who legally possessed the firearm, had heard gunshots related to a fight between two males that knew each other, police said. The bystander remained on scene until security and police arrived.
    Police said the initial shooting stemmed from an altercation between two males who knew each other and at least one of them * a 16-year-old boy * had a gun.
    They, and other people then struggled for the gun and the 16 year old fired at least two shots, striking at least one of the people involved.
    The bystander, who had been in a store nearby, heard the shots, came over and *then engaged the subjects fighting over the gun and fired shots, striking one of the suspects.*
    Police said the 16 year old was the initial shooter and will be charged.
    He was taken to a hospital for treatment. Two males involved in the initial altercation were also shot, but their injuries are not life threatening, police said. A fourth person, a female passing by with her family, was shot in the arm, police said; her injury also is not life-threatening.
    Police did not release further details and declined to answer questions. It was not clear if the bystander shot the 16 year old, or another suspect.
    All told, six shots were fired, police said, but it was not clear who fired how many times. Two guns were recovered.
    The Lancaster County District Attorney's office is investigating the bystander's actions, police said. The bystander was released after an interview with police.
    Though the bystander had a legal gun, Park City prohibits weapons.

    https://lancasteronline.com/news/loc...efbfb6cbf.html
    It's a shame the 16-yo yute didn't abide by the Park City prohibition on weapons..

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    Default Re: Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    Quote Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI View Post
    "Don't pull out your gun, pull out your camera.."
    That shit didn*t work out so well for the Philly rape victim, did it?

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    Default Re: Bystander involved in shooting over attempt to steal gun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manxdriver View Post
    That shit didn*t work out so well for the Philly rape victim, did it?
    In a way it did, they *CAPTURED* his image to turn over to the police.

    If I were the bystander, I would use the Pennsylvania Good Samaritan Law.

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