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    Default NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    NEW YORK — The NYPD will be issuing new recruits a pistol with a lighter trigger pull to improve accuracy, according to the New York Daily News.

    According to the report, the NYPD has used 12-pound trigger pulls for more than 100 years but will now be issuing guns with five-pound trigger pulls. The NYPD says the data speaks for itself.

    In a test of 457 recruits, the average score was 93.7 with the five-pound pull and 88.7 with the 12-pound pull, according to the Daily News. Sworn officers who were tested also scored better with the lighter pull. However, only new recruits will be getting the five-pound pull guns.

    “We’re building (recruits) up from scratch, so to speak,” said Insp. Marlon Larin, who runs the department’s Firearms & Tactics section, to the Daily News. “As we’re training them we’re assessing them and we can also follow them throughout their careers. We didn’t want to go so large. We know this is a very sensitive topic and we wanted to phase it in slowly.”

    Activists have voiced concern, saying it doesn’t make sense to give new officers a weapon that is easier to fire.

    “It’s making the weapon more deadly for more people,” said Randolph McLaughlin, a lawyer who represented the family of a Harlem man killed by police in 2012. “I think at a time when we’re questioning the discharging of weapons by police, when we’re providing officers non-lethal force devices, such as TASERs, why would you want to make it easier for cops to shoot people?”

    But Larin says greater accuracy means fewer shots fired and therefore a lower chance the wrong person is hit.

    Other police agencies have introduced a lighter pull in recent years to reported success. The Suffolk County Police commissioner says the department has seen improved accuracy with no increase in accidental discharges, according to the report.
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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    Actually the ''New York trigger'' on the NYPD-issued pistols were heavier than standard models. They came from the factory with heavier springs to supposedly prevent AD/ND's.
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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Actually the ''New York trigger'' on the NYPD-issued pistols were heavier than standard models. They came from the factory with heavier springs to supposedly prevent AD/ND's.
    There is a NY 1 and a NY 2.

    NY 1 is olive colored and is about 8 lbs and is what PPD uses.

    NY 2 is orange colored and is about 11/12 lbs and is what NYPD uses.

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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Actually the ''New York trigger'' on the NYPD-issued pistols were heavier than standard models. They came from the factory with heavier springs to supposedly prevent AD/ND's.
    There is a NY 1 and a NY 2.

    NY 1 is olive colored and is about 8 lbs and is what PPD uses.

    NY 2 is orange colored and is about 11/12 lbs and is what NYPD uses.

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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    People are morons. A lighter trigger doesn't make it easier to shoot people, it makes it easier to shoot the right people.
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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    There is a NY 1 and a NY 2.

    NY 1 is olive colored and is about 8 lbs and is what PPD uses.

    NY 2 is orange colored and is about 11/12 lbs and is what NYPD uses.
    Didn't their original spec something like 16lb so it would feel like those DOA , fixed sight S&W 581 revolvers they had back then. John Jovino's (NYPD's official supplier) sold pallets of the trade-ins thru Shotgun News for around $200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBackpackin View Post
    People are morons. A lighter trigger doesn't make it easier to shoot people, it makes it easier to shoot the right people.
    Actually it makes it easier for stupid people to hopefully shoot themselves and end their devolving gene pool.
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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Actually it makes it easier for stupid people to hopefully shoot themselves and end their devolving gene pool.
    I was specifically referring to the NYPD hitting the right people as we've seen their proficiency, mainly lack thereof, many times in the past. However I wouldn't be upset by either scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBackpackin View Post
    I was specifically referring to the NYPD hitting the right people as we've seen their proficiency, mainly lack thereof, many times in the past. However I wouldn't be upset by either scenario.
    Have you read any of their yearly reports for the past 10 years ?

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    Default Re: NYPD finally issues reduced trigger pull

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    Have you read any of their yearly reports for the past 10 years ?
    No and have no interest, I was saying that half tongue in cheek. We've all seen some of the videos where their proficiency was questionable, but that wasn't really the main point at all. With a lighter trigger nearly everyone would be more accurate.
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