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August 24th, 2021, 08:25 AM #1Senior Member
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Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
Picked up a great little Handi-Rifle new old stock in the box from a great guy just over the DMZ in New York recently! Shoots lights out with Federal 240 gr hollow points. Loaded up some XTreme and Berry's flat-point 240's using IMR4227 and H110. Accuracy even to 100 yds was great but holy-crap those powders are filthy. I have Unique and TiteGroup also but was wondering how everyone else with a long barreled 44mag did with these powders and plated bullets? I used 22g of each with a light roll crimp.
It could just be the barrel since it's new and needs cleaned early and often but kind of curious what others have to say. My silhouette Ruger BH 10.5" barrel was also pretty dirty firing some of these loads and that gun is well broken-in.Engineers make things idiot proof! Evolution makes better idiots!
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August 24th, 2021, 08:56 AM #2
Re: Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
Most would advise a heavier roll crimp with those powders. Didn't mention primer, but mag. primer is advised.
I've found with Unique, std. primer, that too light of a charge gets dirty. A decent charge for medium loads with a firm crimp is the ticket for me.
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August 24th, 2021, 09:02 AM #3
Re: Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
Without looking up the loads your using, are you close to max for those powders? Sounds like unburnt powder, which is weird for a long barrel. I've never used those for 44mag, I usually stick to 2400 in my pistols. It's usually a little dirtier than factory, but not anything that would effect accuracy over a couple hundred rounds.
Also, with the plated bullets, are you using "cast" or "jacketed" load data? I've only played with those once in loading 44mag and I stuck with my cast data.
Just spitballing here, hopefully someone else with more experience with your loads will chime in.
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August 24th, 2021, 10:30 AM #4
Re: Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
Note, the H&R's rifles* are usually bored/grooved to RIFLE .44mag diameters. .431"
HANDGUN .44mag is .429".
If you're running .429" bullets, that .002" might make a difference, allowing some blow-by which can dirty the barrel. If you're running lead bullets, you might get some flame-cutting of the bullet which will put a lot of lead into the grooves.
* most rifles for that matter in .44mag chambering.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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August 24th, 2021, 01:25 PM #5
Re: Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
knight,
Can you give me some info on this ( link or load manual ).
My BIL is using a .44 mag rifle ( unknown mfg) for bear this season.
His son in law is putting some 300 gr loads together for him.
i'll ask him what his data is but my load books ( Sierra, Speer, Nosler and an old NRA book) do not differentiate between rifle and handgun bullets and list only .429 or .4295 projectiles.
I just gave him a couple hundred LMP primers for his loads.
No hurry but I'd like to see the source.
Thanks,
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August 24th, 2021, 04:17 PM #6
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RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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August 24th, 2021, 04:18 PM #7
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For any rifle chambered in .44mag, you should measure the bore/groove diameters. Some manufacturers go with the handgun dimensions, others go with rifle dimensions. H&R is known for going with the rifle dimension.
RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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August 24th, 2021, 06:37 PM #8
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This is good stuff.
Thanks for posting the links knight.Opinions are like anal apertures. They all stink but mine.
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November 24th, 2021, 06:08 PM #9Member
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Re: Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
For the revolver cartridge single shot rifles I fell head over heels for heavy bore riding designs that maximize the amount of internal case volume that is preserved as powder space. You can't shoot them in your revolver but you're not going to get the loads mixed up either.
Here's an example for .45.
Here's one for .41.
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Re: Reloading 44Mag for a H&R Handi-Rifle
Hey all, should we mention twist rate and bullets in the 44 mag rifles?
And thanks for the Unique primer blurb. Past experience with some suggested that Unique likes to be touched off by magnum primers. I've used both but I'm down to <200 magnum large pistol and don't want to burn too many of them in load development.Engineers make things idiot proof! Evolution makes better idiots!
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