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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    WTF is a CCW?

    Somebody had to fucking say it. HAHA
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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolFan View Post
    USCCA claims the following about PA laws. I did not think this was the case but that was awhile back when I inquired. Can someone confirm this?

    DRIVER'S LICENSE LINKED TO Carry License?

    Is my Pennsylvania driver*s license linked to my Pennsylvania carry license?
    Yes. Your Pennsylvania driver*s license is linked to your Pennsylvania license to carry firearms. Therefore, a law enforcement officer will be notified immediately that you are a concealed carry license holder if they run your driver*s license.
    Quote Originally Posted by pens87pgh View Post
    There's been multiple threads on this forum describing LEO encounters that would lead to confirm that, but I don't know for sure. Maybe Carson or UncleJumbo could help confirm.
    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    My understanding is that LTCF info is not actually contained within the DL info database, but the LTCF database is readily accessible to both dispatchers and LEO, and it's basically standard practice to look for that info, just as they would automatically check for warrants, etc.

    There is nothing showing on a PA DL about any LTCF. What happens, at least in Philadelphia, is that when your name & DOB are run, numerous files/databases are queried. Such as NCIC, PCIC, Protection from Abuse Order, BMV, LTCF, Scofflaw, etc. and there will be about 6 or 7 replies with the listed info. I don*t know how other states systems make queries, but LTCF is not LINKED to your DL or registration.

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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    Out here in Delco, dispatch informs the LEO's if the driver they've pulled over has a weapons permit(their words not mine) and that permit's status. This occurs after Delcom runs a DL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    There is nothing showing on a PA DL about any LTCF. What happens, at least in Philadelphia, is that when your name & DOB are run, numerous files/databases are queried. Such as NCIC, PCIC, Protection from Abuse Order, BMV, LTCF, Scofflaw, etc. and there will be about 6 or 7 replies with the listed info. I don*t know how other states systems make queries, but LTCF is not LINKED to your DL or registration.
    This. What is happening is PSAP workers are illegally accessing the LTCF database without cause or justification.
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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    I am not a lawyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    WTF is a CCW?

    Somebody had to fucking say it. HAHA
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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    6 months back when I was pulled over, I pulled out my rubber banded stack of cards from my pocket, fished through until I saw my photo, and handed it to the officer.
    "This isn't your driver's license", he said.
    (pause while I try to process what he just said)
    "This is your license to carry - do you have your driver's license?"

    LOL! Nervous and need bifocals - also had just gotten each of them renewed not to long ago, so I wouldn't recognize one or the other for what they are without actually READING what's on the card. 11pm at night with no lights... looked like a driver's license to me. LOL

    It was pretty funny.
    The officer said "I'm a rubber band guy too" and pulled out a stack of cards from his pocket to show me.
    "I hate wallets".

    Maybe he could have run my LTCF and got my DL info? LOL
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    Just curious how many cards are in your stack.

    I have an ultra minimal wallet. It has the following contents:

    1). Driver's license
    2). LTCF
    3). Employer ID card
    4). Credit card
    5). Cash

    No extra credit cards, no ATM card, no loyalty cards, no photos, no other bullshit.

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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Just curious how many cards are in your stack.

    I have an ultra minimal wallet. It has the following contents:

    1). Driver's license
    2). LTCF
    3). Employer ID card
    4). Credit card
    5). Cash

    No extra credit cards, no ATM card, no loyalty cards, no photos, no other bullshit.
    7 - about 3 more than I would like.

    1 - Debit card
    2 - Business debit card
    3 - Sam's Club card (used to just keep in the vehicle - probably should revisit that)
    4 - Walmart Associate discount card (only way to get the discount is to swipe the card)
    5 - Health insurance card
    6 - Driver's license
    7 - LTCF

    A few bills in a money clip in the other pocket

    I haven't carried a wallet in 30 years after having my leg fall asleep while driving all the time.
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    Default Re: PA D\L linked to CCW permit?

    Keep your LTCF in another part of your wallet (or rubber band stack).

    There was a little old lady from Florida that drove over a NJ bridge and got pulled for a technicality after 200 yards. She had her LTCF (CCW in Florida) on display next to her drivers license in her wallet. The cop started questioning her if she had a firearm and she said yes (she didn't know).......instant 3 year MANDATORY jail sentence!.

    Luckily I never heard any more of this story so it is likely the charges were somehow dropped when no one was watching.

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