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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    I wish them luck. Since this trigger has a sear like device unlike other approved trigger devices I think they may be sol.

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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    cool device... if bump stocks are banned how could we dispute this will be? maybe not mg by form but function?

    eh, i may have to agree that this is really iffy. sooner or later they will try to make really strict overreaching laws to define this...
    The chair is against the wall... John has a long mustache...

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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    Nice. A courteous and professional "no". Let's see how much they want to push this.
    Sometimes you have to punch a bully in the face

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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Quote Originally Posted by KPShooting View Post
    Imagine what firearms tech would look like if all these talented inventors and engineers could spend their time developing new stuff instead of having to find ways to get aroundcomply with the ATF's tyranny.
    FIFY. They keep making laws (which they're not supposed to do). We keep coming up with unique ways to comply with the letter of those laws...

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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
    FIFY. They keep making laws (which they're not supposed to do). We keep coming up with unique ways to comply with the letter of those laws...
    agree, non-compliance is the only answer here. the ATF has no legislative authority and we need to hold them to that, not continue to play chess.
    -Brandon


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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Rare breed is fighting back, it'll be interesting to see the ATF's response back:


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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    ATF Responds, basically their description is calling all AR triggers machine guns potentially:


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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Quote Originally Posted by widgetman101 View Post
    ATF Responds, basically their description is calling all AR triggers machine guns potentially:

    That guy needed to have a copy of the letter and speak to the actual language instead of ranting and pointing at scribble on a white board with a butcher knife.

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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    That guy needed to have a copy of the letter and speak to the actual language instead of ranting and pointing at scribble on a white board with a butcher knife.
    He's the first one I've seen covering the response so that's why I posted that one. This is the full breakdown of how this all started. It appears an ATF agent found the trigger on 4chan then they eventually ordered one off gunbroker because they couldn't get one direct. There are emails where they've pretty much determined it's a machine gun before even examining it.


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    Default Re: ATF declares Rare Breed Triggers a machine gun

    Quote Originally Posted by widgetman101 View Post
    He's the first one I've seen covering the response so that's why I posted that one. This is the full breakdown of how this all started. It appears an ATF agent found the trigger on 4chan then they eventually ordered one off gunbroker because they couldn't get one direct. There are emails where they've pretty much determined it's a machine gun before even examining it.
    no kidding - the ATF's one and only goal right now is to "legislate" everything into disarming us. they don't give a shit about actual facts.
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