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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Quote Originally Posted by cham09 View Post
    Has there been any cases yet of someone using that defense in PA successfully?
    Commonwealth v. Goslin, 156 A. 3d 314 - Pa: Superior Court 2017

    A 2019 case ruling by the same court in Commonwealth v. Edwards, Pa: Superior Court 2019:

    [7] Without citing to any authority, Appellant argues that his possession of the knife for protection is a lawful purpose. Appellant's Brief at 14. The Commonwealth argues the opposite, "self-defense is not a lawful purpose for bringing a weapon to school. If it were, any student could bring a weapon to school." Commonwealth's Brief at 12.

    In Commonwealth v. Goslin, 156 A.3d 314 (Pa. Super. 2017), this Court interpreted the language of Section 912(c). We held that the language, "other lawful purpose," "expands the defense to include any additional or different lawful reason not otherwise mentioned in the first clause of Section 912(c), regardless of whether it is school-related." Id. at 317-318. However, we noted, "[a]lthough we are concerned about individuals possessing weapons on school property, we are bound by the broad defense that the legislature has provided defendants in such cases. We would urge the legislature to review this language to ensure that the legislature's view has not changed since it enacted this defense in 1980." Goslin, 156 A.3d at 318, n. 4.

    We are inclined to agree with the Commonwealth, however, we need not reach the question of whether self-defense constitutes an "other lawful purpose" within the meaning of the statute today.
    Last edited by tl_3237; July 27th, 2021 at 10:33 AM.
    IANAL

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Cool, sucks that they had to go through being charged with something in the first place but glad to see it worked out in the end

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Sounds like its a trip sans firearm. Hopefully a pocketknife is acceptable.
    Una Salus Victis Nullam Sperare Salutem

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Flamethrower ok or no?

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    I never open carry. CC only for me.
    So you regularly CC on school grounds without issue?

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    So you regularly CC on school grounds without issue?
    Most times when I walk my dog. Nobody knows I carry though, thats why I dont get hassled.
    When my kids were in school, I'd go to school functions armed, even went on a bus trip to
    a museum in the city once.

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    Most times when I walk my dog. Nobody knows I carry though, thats why I dont get hassled.
    When my kids were in school, I'd go to school functions armed, even went on a bus trip to
    a museum in the city once.
    If there's no 'exposure' or you're not stopped for any any other reason, I guess chances of things going south are probably pretty darn slim.

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    If there's no 'exposure' or you're not stopped for any any other reason, I guess chances of things going south are probably pretty darn slim.
    I'm low key, I dont attract attention to myself when out and about. Now when I'm driving my truck,
    thats a different story.

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    I went to a high school with a rifle range in the basement.

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    Default Re: Fair located on school property - carry legality?

    Quote Originally Posted by DMG View Post
    I went to a high school with a rifle range in the basement.
    So did I, but it was used for storage...
    Illegitimus non carborundum est

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